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[mainegrown]

S=Answer if you grow traditional soil

E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!


E-indoor
E-soil
E-organic soil
CSL-soil brand Coast of Maine line

SCL-anything added to soillime organic phosphorous perlite verniculite bat guano worm castings
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH = ??
E-Water source deep well
E-Source water pH = ??

E-some just over a month in flower and 2 and 3 weeks in veg
E-organic Neptunes Harvest Fish
E-Rate of application one table spoon per gallon
E-Lighting source and distance from plant
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) day < 80F night down to 60F

E-Air % Relative humidity up to 26% usually less
E-Lighting schedule 12 12 for flowering 24 hour for veg
E-Type of ventilation your room has 300 cfm out of hood 200 out of DIG
have large circulation fan on when lights are none of the fans attached to or in the DIG are on when lights are off
the plants are about 5 weeks old and have been in flower for almost 3 weeks, will be on 22nd of dec
they have yellowish spots and some of the lower leaves are turning yellow and falling off
in the veg room some of the plants are kinda stunted and one has died
i have at least 10 confirmed females and only cut out 5 males so far is that good??
is a really low humidity bad for the flowering girls?
more info have forced hot air furnace house ate roughly 80 all the time so i keep the plants at house temp btw..
more questions as i think of them
thanks for the help people
-J

mainegrown Reviewed by mainegrown on 12-19-2009. help S=Answer if you grow traditional soil E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol! E-indoor E-soil E-organic soil CSL-soil brand Coast of Maine line Rating: 5

[mainegrown]

here it is and i can also post pics of what you want just ask i want help to the same questions as above and also if you see something bad tell me even if just an opinion.. just explain if an opininion.
What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...) we will call it first time but just so you explain if i ask.. lol

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's) have 600 watt HPS and 2* 5 watt red 660nM red LED bulbs in the flower cab and a 70 watt MH and 3 * 23 watt CFL's that are "cool white" in veg
.2) Distance from tops? HPS is 16+/- inches above the canapoy LED bulbs are about an inch MH is about a foot and CFL's are about 4 inches above the canapoy
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...) bat wing? above sealed cooled hood for HPS MH is a sealed hood and LED's and CFL's are bare
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? YES doors are almost always open.. i think thats enough
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? yes and two yesses
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? as above but unknown for HPS and 5500k for MH and 2700k for CFL's?? 660nM for LED's

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) Coast of Maine organic and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) all of above and lime and bat guano and vermiculirte and others
.8) Size of container. variable but many are now being consistently planted into solo cups and loving it
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? no

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting? well water with unknown PH
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...) none
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. i am feeding Neptunes Harvest Fish @ 1 T / Gal. when pots are dry
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? have not should i?
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)none but next time i water will be plain water maybe with a little bit of molasses
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? i dont know
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? yes a few time a day and a very light dose of the same as the soil

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? indoor
20) What size of closet, room or hut? flower 2 by 4 by 6.. veg 2 by 2 by 2
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? on 75 - 80 off 60 - 70 all F not C
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? other than lady bugs .. no and they love the warmth

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) no idea local 6th generation starains
24) From seeds or clones? seed soon gonna get clones i hope
25) Is this an autoflower strain? no
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[Rusty Trichome]

Pictures would be a big help, but you're going to need to find out the ph of your wellwater. My wellwater is 7.9 out of the tap requiring the use of phDown. Might want to contact Coast of Maine and ask what ph their medium is buffered at, too.

Speaking of the medium...are you adding everything under the sun into the potting mix, or is all that stuff already in it? Just making sure I understand. The more shit you add without knowing why...the greater risk of screwing up the balance needed, and the harder it becomes to troubleshoot. Plus, you are likely doubling or tripling up on the nutes. (yes, organics can and will burn if overused) Keep it simple till you are successful, then go in for the well-marketed (yet usually unnecessary) additives and ammendments.

If they aren't healthy, doubtful they are rootbound yet, but you can check.
If still in SOLO cups, doubtful you should be making their enviornment so friggin hot. (nutrient-wise)

HPS or MH for veg...all the additional lighting is likely unnecessary. Perhaps the CDFL's and LED's for side lighting, but likely unnecessary. (are your walls painted white?)

Too early...time to go make coffee. Good luck. :thumbsup:

[mainegrown]

i will upload pics at 6 pm when the light turn on.
also i would like to know what you wnat pics of exactly.. the leaves the soil the whole plant etc.

peaking of the medium...are you adding everything under the sun into the potting mix, or is all that stuff already in it? Just making sure I understand. The more shit you add without knowing why...the greater risk of screwing up the balance needed, and the harder it becomes to troubleshoot. Plus, you are likely doubling or tripling up on the nutes. (yes, organics can and will burn if overused) Keep it simple till you are successful, then go in for the well-marketed (yet usually unnecessary) additives and ammendments.

well rusty i based the mix i have on a long time grower on the island. he has grown pot for 30+ years and i have exactly what ha uses for 10 foot outdoor girls. does the place that you grow in matter for the substrate? there are only a lil bits of the additives in the soil, most of what is needed for the whole grow is already in there thanks to coast of maine. my friend we will call bob is currently very sick and in the hospital or i would be talking to him about this ya know? but you guuys are very helpful and i appreciate the help and the positive responses
-J

[mainegrown]

Pictures would be a big help, but you're going to need to find out the ph of your wellwater. -Rusty Trichrome-

here are the pics they show one of the plants that is showing the symptoms the hardest.

also it will show a couple views of the whole setup and also some pics of leaves from random plants that show the problems i am having
thanks for the support and patience with a n00b like me

i have come to the conclusion that many of the problems were related to over-watering as the plants seem to be coming out of it by themselves but now i am wondering if i am over/under feeding my girls 2 days till 3 weeks of flowering.. am i on schedule?
more pics to come
-j

[mainegrown]

here they are one of a plant with clawed/bent leaves and another few of general problems
some are in veg (they are the ones in solo cups) and some in flower..

why are a few of the vegging babies looking SO SMALL?
last pic is of bottom of one gal milk jug cut in half that i have a couple girls in.. if you can tell there are tons of roots all over the bottom of the container.. does this mean root bound?

thanks for help again and appreciate any thoughts Shov, Rusty, and the rest have made known to me


-J

[mainegrown]

so i finally did a few things..
looked at a bunch of rootbound rootballs
found the soil bone dry
and transplanted..

now for the question..
what is this and how bad is it?

the rest of the rootballs looked like the last pic so i have to assume it was because it was in a clear milk jug??
thanks for helping
-J'Worried

[Rusty Trichome]

Is your friends formula for outdoors in soil, or outdoors in pots? Are your plants being grown in exactly the same manner as your friend's? (outdoors till harvest, outdoors for vegging and indoors for flower, the other way around, same schedule, same nutes...) Why can't you ask your friend what's up, since it's his formula...?

This is the main problem with adding so much crap to your mix. If you are inexperienced, you have no clue what the offending parameter is, and you have no clue where to start looking. Plus, you've already got the crap in the mix, with no way to remove it if necessary.

I'd strongly recommend you back-off and keep it simple. Once you get a few grow cycles under your belt, (and get to know how to successfully grow your strain) perhaps add one additive or ammendment at a time till you get to know it's proper dilution or application rates for your strain and under your growing conditions, and keep going from there.

BTW: It's time to transplant. Light kills roots, too :jointsmile:

[mainegrown]

thanks rusty,
the guy is in the hospital for some thing. has been for almost a month now. its too bad. thats why i am here in the first place. he grows from seed indoors till sexed. about the first~second week in may he puts the girls out doors in this mix in 5 gallon buckets. sorry no pics but the results are crazy. i agree and i am going to be getting some promix and perlite and making a very basic mix. sound about right?
-J

[Rusty Trichome]

SOunds like a good start, lol. Now would be a good time to start looking for appropriate containers, too. (ones that are light proof)