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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    Thursday, Dec. 17, 2009

    CONTACT
    Mark Salley
    Director, Office of Communications
    303-692-2013

    Medical Marijuana Registry Data Shows Cause for Concern

    DENVER The latest data from the Medical Marijuana Registry maintained by the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment shows, that as of Dec. 15, a total of 820 licensed physicians had authorized medical marijuana for 15,800 patients. Of those 820 physicians, just 15 accounted for 73 percent of total patients, and just five have authorized 49 percent of all recommendations.

    These figures are representative of the concerns we have about whether some physicians really have a bona fide physician-patient relationship, as required in the constitution, with those for whom they are authorizing the use of marijuana, said Chief Medical Officer Ned Calonge. Working with the governorā??s office, we have crafted statutory language changes that would, among other things, clarify what constitutes a bona fide physician-patient relationship.

    The department is asking legislators crafting medical marijuana-related bills to include the following provisions to help address issues of fraud and abuse:

    Define a bona fide physician-patient relationship that includes an on-going relationship, a complete assessment of a patients medical history and follow-up care.
    Ensure a physician recommending medical marijuana is in good standing and has not had his/her federal Drug Enforcement Administration registration revoked or suspended.
    Prohibit physicians from receiving remuneration from a primary care giver or dispensary.
    On average, the 805 physicians with the lowest number of medical marijuana authorizations have approved just over five patients per doctor, while the 15 physicians with the most authorizations for medical marijuana have approved an average of 760 patients per doctor. These dramatic differences raise concerns about the medical care being provided to these patients.

    According to Calonge, this latest data is all the more reason to make statutory language changes that will better ensure that the appropriate patients are participating in the medical marijuana program, with assessment and treatment that meet the medical standard of care in the community and assures the health outcomes intended by those voting in favor of the original constitutional amendment.

    Many of these requirements parallel federal laws designed to provide protection from economic conflicts of interest that may arise when a physician stands to benefit directly from the sale of a medication or service that he or she prescribes, said Calonge.

    The latest estimate from the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment is that approximately 29,000 to 30,000 individuals now have submitted the necessary applications to be included on the states medical marijuana registry. An exact count is not available at this time due to the high volume of mailed applications being received by the registry each day.
    weekapaug74 Reviewed by weekapaug74 on . CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, Dec. 17, 2009 CONTACT Mark Salley Director, Office of Communications 303-692-2013 Medical Marijuana Registry Data Shows Cause for Concern Rating: 5

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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    I need an MJ doctor because I have a primary care physician in a large practice which won't do MMJ recommendations.

    Should we also require such a relationship for plastic surgery or even abortion?

    If I need a root canal, I go to a root canal doctor, not my primary dentist because the root canal doctor is better at it.

    they should stop. what will it take?
    Colorado patient grower. :rambohead:

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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    Either a lawsuit or a large demonstration by passionate medicinal cannabis activists....
    Colorado Care Facility 5130 E. Colfax Ave. Denver, CO
    :jointsmile:We are open everyday from 11am to 8pm:jointsmile:
    (303) 953 - 8503 / [email protected]
    CCF Website: www.coloradocarefacility.com

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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    Quote Originally Posted by copobo
    I need an MJ doctor because I have a primary care physician in a large practice which won't do MMJ recommendations.

    Should we also require such a relationship for plastic surgery or even abortion?
    Now there's a way to solve CU's Med School money problems, offer a Doctor of Medical Marijuana degree/specialization.:thumbsup:

    It should probably include extensive knowledge of something the medical profession seems only recently to be addressing - pain management.

    I'm on Medicare w/Kaiser; they offered me an anti-depressant for my shingles because they said it gave pain relief. When I told them it didn't do shit for the pain but killed my sex drive they gave me Percocet, but made me go through extensive hoops for renewals, saying they feared addiction.

    No MMJ prescriptions from them for my chronic back pain - and other than developing a historical record, I don't want them having anything to deal with my pain.

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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    BTW - pretty interesting numbers in that press release; 15.8k registered patients a/o 15th, but nearly twice that in submissions!

    The missing numbers, the ones some reporter should have asked Calonge about, are how far behind they are in processing applications and how far behind are they in filing/tracking change of caregiver forms? I've heard people say they applied six months ago and still haven't received their license.

    If this was another approval situation, say in Social Services, the outcry from the media would be huge, the Gov would be holding major staff meetings - but since it's just pot licenses the state's approach seems to be no problem, they're not sick just a bunch of malingering stoners so let's screw with them..

    I agree, we need to raise a stink. DoH shouldn't be worrying about rule making when it can't even take care of record keeping.

    Haven't looked in on Westword recently - wonder if Patty Calhoun's given up jousting at windmills?

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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    Quote Originally Posted by starter09
    I've heard people say they applied six months ago and still haven't received their license.
    I was told by one of the assistants at the caregiver where I was preparing my paperwork that licenses were now taking 8 months. This came from a friend that works at the registry.

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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    Looks like they are getting backed up, and therefore creating jobs that need to be filled to make it more like a month wait. and the reason is medical marijuana. Yah i was wondering myself about the missing numbers there. That must be the estimated amount of paperwork laying around in a office room that needs to be processed. Looks like they have some secure jobs also in this economy.

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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    Every day's delay means another day one need not renew, since one's copies of paperwork submitted with proof of mailing and receipt, are legally sufficient as your license. Every once in a while, the govt's incompetence works to your benefit. I haven't got my license yet, but my check cleared about a month ago.

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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    oh, nice lil loophole their eh'. Right, state law is state law.:thumbsup:

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    CO Health Dept calls for changes to doctor-patient rules

    Colorado: Department of Public Health and Environment, Colorado Medical Marijuana Registry

    one of these documents gives new and renewals 12-14 weeks approximate.
    The other document says that after 35 days with no response your application is deemed approved. However I'm not sure reading further down if that's just a given, mean they could for whatever reason (perhaps missing info on the form, wrong ink) send you a rejection letter down the road, passed the 35 days.

    14 weeks , is almost 4 months.

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