first big grow by twitch

[Vancefish]

i have seen people us hps lights for veg and flower what are the downs sides to
this anyone know?

This was the question posted.

i wasnt
asking about colors u made it about colors

The answer was the downside to using HPS for vegitative was the shortage of BLUE! That was why color WAS part of the question.

OUT!!!!
u have tainted my thread i am going to have to start a new one. i dont want to see u on my next grow log unless its to say nice nugs
other then that u can keep ur 2 cents in your pocket.... i am not saying ur
wrong your just annoying....

Sorry Twitch, I just tried to help and explain WHY, not just throw out a generic answer. I got carried away after I was attacked and told my answer was bullshit and had no basis in fact. I did not mean to "mess up your thread and would never post a reply to a "grow log". This was posted to a regular thread, asking why HM was said to be better for Vegitative growth (BLUE). However NOT a grow log.

and its doesn't seem like ur getting it or i just didnt read ur whole post....
ITS WHEN YOU PUT THEM IN TO 12/12 LIGHT THAT TRIGGERS THE FLOWERING!!
thats why u can do a (seed to bud) and get product in under 3 months
^^^lets not start an augment about that either guys

Sorry you didn't read it. It had some good stuff about how BLUE grows thicker more productive plants. Plus how RED is used to produce higher flowering hormones. I will be putting all of this information into my grows and only posted it to try and help(and prove I'm not just a windbag spewing bullshit). I never argued about 12/12. Just pointed out that RED does have a role. AND Blue was better to grow thicker healthier plants (as the question asked).

anyways if u have been watching this grow i am going to start a new log in
grow logs with out all this talk of light colors in the next day or 2 probably
today with new pics

Cool, I'm watch and never post if that is what you want. As I said, I only tried to help until I was attacked for posting informative facts based on science.

Vancefish Reviewed by Vancefish on 12-17-2009. first big grow by twitch i have had 3 other grows on this site where i had 1 to 4 females, now i am doing a grow where i a hoping for at least 8 if not more. i started with 50 seeds of different genetics from people i have gotten over the past 4 years. i now have 26 seedlings they are under a 4 ft 4 bulb t5 lights, they are in fox farm potting soil and in the next couple of weeks they will start on a half dose of fox farm nutes i also have a 400 watt switchable ballast with an hps and i am getting a mh Rating: 5

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vancefish, i'm not gonna argue with you. anyone can copy and post shit. and anyone can post shit on the internet.....that doesn't make it the truth or the gospel!

so if you think specturm plays such a big role then why is the sun better than any light or color spectrum available? we are merely trying to mimick the sun with indoor lighting. it's the same sun in the sky during the summer and the winner.

i do apologize for going off the deep end. i never meant to attack you personally or anything else of the sort. i also don't need to copy and paste shit to get my point across.

i'm aware how plants absorb light and how photosynthesis works.

also, about the HPS would cause stretching. i agree that it might a little bit, but plant only stretch really bad when trying to reach for more light. if you keep the light right on top of them they don't stretch that bad.

finally, just because you read something and took notes and can recite it doesn't mean you know anything. it means you can parrot others. the post count doesn't matter nor the rep.


twitch, i'm sorry for tainting your thread. truly.


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[twitch]

lol its all good i ma going to start on under grow logs when i feel like typing it all up

[hawks18]

lookin real good hoping for the best

[twitch]

YES!!!! i am so glad you get on this still, now you dont have to drive out all
the time.

i am actually having a problem with some of them, ill post a pics, but i think
its nute burn. i dont know what i was thinking but i feed some of them with a
half dose nutes and i dont remember which ones but i think its the ones with
these yellowing edges.

also i am doing a spray with just water and a small lil bit of worm castings (liquid)
i was wondering could that possible be it? i have stop with both i only did like
half of them with nutes so i dont think it should be that big of a deal since i
am doing just water now

every buddy tune in and tell me what yall think here are the pics

oh and the plant to the left (in the first pic) i have no idea what that spot is
but its the only with with spots like it and all of my other plants look fine no
yellowing at all but this one is the worst so i took pics of it

[twitch]

anyone?

[mainegrown]

i like what you have done twitch. i will tune in your plants are doing way better than mine i wanna see what you are doing different.
-J"Baked

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anyone?

they definitely look like they have nute burn. i would stop with the worm castings in the foliar spray.

what is your watering/feeding schedule like? are you letting the soil dry out really good before you water/feed them again? they look like they might be slightly over-watered.


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[frostedwonder]

The new growth from the bit I can see looks fine so things will fall back in line. I second the discontinue foliar feeding of worm castings.

[KingKronic420]

with the FF soil, you shouldnt have to feed for the first 2-3wks.

i think you should take it easy on the nutes for a little while and just water with plain ol ph'd water. it doesn't look bad so they should recover quickly.

good luck man