23 year old killed by cops over pot ...

[KingOfTheRodeo]

im not sure if this is natural selection at work or a tradegy... maybe a little bit of both.

hahaha ohhh sorry. That was funny.

On another note it sucks that the guy died. Although he shouldn't have tried to eat a bag of weed. And the cops shouldn't have let him died.

Life's a bitch.

KingOfTheRodeo Reviewed by KingOfTheRodeo on 12-14-2009. 23 year old killed by cops over pot ... this from today's news : Man Dies After Choking on Bag of Pot During Arrest Saturday, December 12, 2009 PANAMA CITY BEACH, Fla. â?? Bay County deputies say a 23-year-old man who was shocked with a stun gun died after choking on a large bag of marijuana during an attempted arrest. According to The News Herald, Andrew Grande ran from deputies who responded to the scene of a reported physical disturbance early Friday morning. Grande was later confronted by the investigators, who saw Rating: 5

[BobBong]

hahaha ohhh sorry. That was funny.

On another note it sucks that the guy died. Although he shouldn't have tried to eat a bag of weed. And the cops shouldn't have let him died.

Life's a bitch.

You ever try to fish plastic bag out of someone's throat? They probably stuck their fingers down the kid's throat in every attempt to save his life.
I feel for the Cops, guy died essentially right there. Not what i call a good day at the office if you ask me.

[psychodelic]

The guy wasn't "Tased over mj" (as Gyski stated). He was a suspect that resisted arrest, ran from the cops, attempted to destroy evidence, AND PURPOSELY STUFFED A BAG OF WEED IN HIS MOUTH.

Cops had a job to do. I cannot imagine the cops thinking "OMG! He's got weed! Let's tase him!" Instead it was probably, "This suspect is violently resisting arrest and needs to be subdued immediately to ensure public safety, which is our job."

Of course I don't have the full story, but I fail to see the connection between marijuana and the death. Marijuana was involved, but this thread title is ridiculously misleading...and just false. No offense Image Reaper

It's a tragedy that this happened, and I'll leave it at that. My .02

[gypski]

The guy wasn't "Tased over mj" (as Gyski stated). He was a suspect that resisted arrest, ran from the cops, attempted to destroy evidence, AND PURPOSELY STUFFED A BAG OF WEED IN HIS MOUTH.

Cops had a job to do. I cannot imagine the cops thinking "OMG! He's got weed! Let's tase him!" Instead it was probably, "This suspect is violently resisting arrest and needs to be subdued immediately to ensure public safety, which is our job."

Of course I don't have the full story, but I fail to see the connection between marijuana and the death. Marijuana was involved, but this thread title is ridiculously misleading...and just false. No offense Image Reaper

It's a tragedy that this happened, and I'll leave it at that. My .02

There is a video tape of the incident or parts of it, and being tased could cause someone to inhale what ever it was they were trying to swallow. I wonder if he was black??

[RedLocks]

The guy wasn't "Tased over mj" (as Gyski stated). He was a suspect that resisted arrest, ran from the cops, attempted to destroy evidence, AND PURPOSELY STUFFED A BAG OF WEED IN HIS MOUTH.

Cops had a job to do. I cannot imagine the cops thinking "OMG! He's got weed! Let's tase him!" Instead it was probably, "This suspect is violently resisting arrest and needs to be subdued immediately to ensure public safety, which is our job."

Of course I don't have the full story, but I fail to see the connection between marijuana and the death. Marijuana was involved, but this thread title is ridiculously misleading...and just false. No offense Image Reaper

It's a tragedy that this happened, and I'll leave it at that. My .02

yup.

although doesn't seem like he was being violent just running away the whole time. Wouldn't be surprised if they zapped him because they realized he was trying to swallow something and they didn't want to lose an extra charge, serve and protect yuh know..

ohh and to the previous poster, cops accidentally killed a suspect, do you have to wonder if he was Black? hah joke.. 50/50 chance he a Hispanic

[psychodelic]

There is a video tape of the incident or parts of it, and being tased could cause someone to inhale what ever it was they were trying to swallow. I wonder if he was black??

First, what a stupid thing to do, bring race into it. Second, if there's a video, how about a link?? Third, the suspect was resisting arrest. The cops didn't force the bag in his mouth, then tase him. They followed standard procedure when he was resisting arrest.

yup.

although doesn't seem like he was being violent just running away the whole time. Wouldn't be surprised if they zapped him because they realized he was trying to swallow something and they didn't want to lose an extra charge, serve and protect yuh know..

Yeah, that makes total sense, seeing as how cops make a commission for every charge they bring in! I know cops have monthly quotas for tickets and citations, but it's ridiculous to assume that the cops purposely tased him because they saw something in his mouth. Again, they tased him because he was resisting arrest. Also, how can you say he wasn't violently resisting arrest? They had one handcuff on and he broke free! How can you break free from a polic officer handcuffing you without using force/violence?

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I don't understand why race is being brought into this. Pure ignorance.

[BobBong]

I don't understand why race is being brought into this. Pure ignorance.

Agree'd:hippy:

[RedLocks]

First, what a stupid thing to do, bring race into it. Second, if there's a video, how about a link?? Third, the suspect was resisting arrest. The cops didn't force the bag in his mouth, then tase him. They followed standard procedure when he was resisting arrest.



Yeah, that makes total sense, seeing as how cops make a commission for every charge they bring in! I know cops have monthly quotas for tickets and citations, but it's ridiculous to assume that the cops purposely tased him because they saw something in his mouth. Again, they tased him because he was resisting arrest. Also, how can you say he wasn't violently resisting arrest? They had one handcuff on and he broke free! How can you break free from a polic officer handcuffing you without using force/violence?

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I don't understand why race is being brought into this. Pure ignorance.

heh as far as the race thing goes, I was just commenting on this other dude's comment, which i think was silly to bring up, but nowhere near ignorant. unwarranted force and violence by the police is a sad but true and undeniable occurrence

as far as the main topic, each charge means $$ for the district through fines, each charge and arrest is a feather in the cap of a officer trying to make his way up the ranks and higher pay grade and like you said, meating their quota. Ever been to a municipal court? Pure fund raising, not much justice involved in the ordeal...

As far as running..it is simple and really doesn't require violence, slip your jacket and run, pivot and sprint if they have you facing a wall, etcetc. Only situation in my life i can think of where I could have ran (not got away just ran) where resorting to force or violence would have been my only choice is while laying on the ground with a cops knee in my spine, and even then to use enough force to free yourself you would have to be on PCP..

Although flicking a finger nail clipping in the general direction of a police officer can be considered assaulting an officer lol.. don't know exactly how things went down, for all I know he grabbed the cops baton beat him over the head with it, so I can't say anything besides police don't need a valid reason to use excessive force.

[psychodelic]

heh as far as the race thing goes, I was just commenting on this other dude's comment, which i think was silly to bring up, but nowhere near ignorant. unwarranted force and violence by the police is a sad but true and undeniable occurrence

Gotcha, well said.

as far as the main topic, each charge means $$ for the district through fines, each charge and arrest is a feather in the cap of a officer trying to make his way up the ranks and higher pay grade and like you said, meating their quota. Ever been to a municipal court? Pure fund raising, not much justice involved in the ordeal...

I hadn't thought of it that way, that's an interesting argument. I guess you're right, the gov't does make money that way. However, I find it hard to believe that a couple of cops care so much about bringing in more money that they'd jeopardize their career intentionally. They don't get a commission, so why would they care?

As far as running..it is simple and really doesn't require violence, slip your jacket and run, pivot and sprint if they have you facing a wall, etcetc. Only situation in my life i can think of where I could have ran (not got away just ran) where resorting to force or violence would have been my only choice is while laying on the ground with a cops knee in my spine, and even then to use enough force to free yourself you would have to be on PCP..

The point is, he wasn't just running. He was already being detained and in the process of being handcuffed. The get away from police officers at that point, he must have used force. The cops responded accordingly. For all the cops know, he had a gun hidden somewhere (cops don't frisk until after the cuffs are on).

don't know exactly how things went down, for all I know he grabbed the cops baton beat him over the head with it, so I can't say anything besides police don't need a valid reason to use excessive force.

It's unfortunate that there are a lot of cops out there that abuse their power, I agree. But to assume that's what happened is not my way of thinking

[gypski]

video link.

Man Gets Tased and Dies After Trying to Swallow Marijuana During Police Encounter | Stop the Drug War (DRCNet)