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    #11
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    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by zenneson
    The pubic is getting less ignorant about marijuana and once the news of how it has and will benefit California's economy becomes well known. This subject will come up in a lot of political conversations. This will probably be followed by backing for legalization or decriminalization. The question is will Obama have the bravery to support it? Would have McCain? Ganja Wise wants to know what you think.


    good question. I voted for McCain. I figured Obama might be more herb friendly than McCain but really didn't have a whole lotta hope that either side would reschedule. The best I was hoping for was a good healthy respect of the US Constitution and States' Rights.

    I never bought into all the Obama hype and voted against him in the general election, but I gotta say I was impressed when his administation announced that would no longer be busting the med coops in California. That was a victory I did not expect.

    I think the real test will come next November when Californian's legalize thru the ballot box and, as provided by the Cali Constitution, legal bud for adults becomes the law of the land in California. :smokin: Obama's reaction to this event will be my litmus test for him. If he is cool with it all then I'm cool with him. Hell, I might even vote for him, and smoke one with him in Oaksterdam. imp:

    but that said :rastasmoke:, he needs to reschedule, there is no excuse for him not to. it is his responsibility under the CSA. until Congress guts the CSA then it is his administrations job to make sure the drug schedules reflect reality.

    it just occurred to me after I posted this, why is the CSA even constitutional?? I wonder if anyone has challenged the legality of it, you know giving the executive branch basically the ability to write law. seems kinda ass backwards to me. :twocents:

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    #12
    Senior Member

    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    IF California were to 'legalize' marijuana in the upcoming ballot initiative, Obama's Administration WILL strike it down ... Guaranteed :wtf: ... Eric Holder, with Obama's approval, would like to lock us all up (stoners don't contribute millions of dollars to campaign funds) ... do your homework ... :smokin:

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    #13
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    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by the image reaper
    IF California were to 'legalize' marijuana in the upcoming ballot initiative, Obama's Administration WILL strike it down ... Guaranteed :wtf: ... Eric Holder, with Obama's approval, would like to lock us all up (stoners don't contribute millions of dollars to campaign funds) ... do your homework ... :smokin:
    I agree, stoners, or most don't contribute to campaigns. I believe all elections and all candidates get a set sum to run on. Once you've spent it you don't get anymore. Free speech isn't invoked with the power of money. Those with the money right now spread nothing but lies to get elected and we need honest representation.

    I don't agree that the feds will stop legal marijuana if it passes in California. State's Rights and all the BS. Time for truth and honesty.

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    #14
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    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    Legalization ain't gonna happen, on the Federal level ... y'all gotta get out more, you can't get a feel for the popular opinions from a marijuana website :wtf: ... hell, yeah, everybody here, wants to see pot legalized ... that's a no-brainer ... try listening to the 'other sides' ... P.S. - the argument over "States' Rights", is not a legal precedent, it is a political debate ... and, since the Federal Government's Laws, override the States', it means nothing ... :wtf: ... here, this popped up in the news, just minutes ago:

    **********

    NorCal??s ??Pot Paradise?
    December 8, 2009 - 12:00 PM | by: Claudia Cowan

    Tucked amid the vast forestland of Northern California's Trinity County, the small town of Hayfork is - literally- going to pot...with marijuana being smoked, grown and sold more than ever before.

    Legal cannabis cultivation has become Hayfork's #1 industry. Sophisticated growing operations --both indoors and outside--are flourishing, thanks to the regions climate, cheap real estate, and local laws allowing medical marijuana farming and possession.

    Lawful or not, the cannabis culture is dividing the town.

    Retirees, including many grandparents, say they've had it with the bad element that follows and exposes kids to the drug trade, from the buyers who come in with their foul language and poor hygiene, to the farmers who guard their crop with guns and attack dogs.

    But with the timber industry gone, and gold mining a thing of the past, others maintain Hayfork's fledgling pot farms need all the support they can get.

    Marijuana advocates argue the town is in dire need of an industry that can provide tax dollars and jobs.

    But many question the wisdom of an economy based on pot profits... And worry about the impact on the town's youth.

    Schools superintendent Tom Barnett says he already sees one disturbing trend: graduating seniors-- skipping college, career training programs, and even travel, to stay put-- and grow pot.

    -Claudia Cowan, Hayfork, California

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    see what I'm talkin' about ? :smokin:

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    #15
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    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by the image reaper
    IF California were to 'legalize' marijuana in the upcoming ballot initiative, Obama's Administration WILL strike it down ... Guaranteed :wtf: ... Eric Holder, with Obama's approval, would like to lock us all up (stoners don't contribute millions of dollars to campaign funds) ... do your homework ... :smokin:
    you don't know that for sure. That is your guess. Did you predict Holder would back off the coops? You may be right, but I say time will tell. I am not going to try to predict how they will react, but States Rights is no pipe dream, read the ninth and tenth amendments to the Constitution. :smokin:

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    #16
    Senior Member

    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    ^ didn't mean to sound so rude IR. i should never post until after a bowl or two. :jointsmile: :stoned:
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    bring \'em all home.


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    #17
    Senior Member

    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    Congress allows DC to implement 1998 medical marijuana law
    Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:35:15 By: Russ Belville, NORML Outreach Coordinator
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    House and Senate negotiations for the 2010 Appropriations bill have been completed. This is the huge federal budget bill and it just so happens that Washington DC is a federal district and its spending is controlled by Congress.

    In 1998, DC passed a medical marijuana bill overwhelmingly, but Congressional drug warriors led by Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia prevented DC from spending any federal money to count the votes (that??s right, in our democracy??s capital, our leaders conspired to prevent citizens from counting votes in a legal election). When that was deemed unconstitutional, they spent the money to count the votes, showing that 69% of DC supported medical marijuana. So Rep. Barr created the ??Barr Amendment? that prevented DC from spending any money to implement the medical marijuana program they had voted in.

    Well, today??s 2010 Appropriations bill changes all that. In addition to removing bans on abortion, domestic partnerships, and needle exchange, Congress has given the go-ahead to begin implementing DC medical marijuana!

    (US Senate) Removing Special Restrictions on the District of Columbia: Eliminates a prohibition on the use of local tax funds for abortion, thereby putting the District in the same position as the 50 states. Also allows the District to implement a referendum on use of marijuana for medical purposes as has been done in other states, allows use of Federal funds for needle exchange programs except in locations considered inappropriate by District authorities, and discontinues a ban on the use of funds in the bill for domestic partnership registration and benefits.

    DC??s medical marijuana bill was written with the same sort of open language as was passed in California? will we be seeing marijuana dispensaries on K Street anytime soon?




    This surprised the shit out of me

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    #18
    Senior Member

    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    The Obama administration has already told the DEA to lay off patients and care givers. They are only going after traffickers.

    It's amazing how uninformed some of you republicans are.

    U.S. attorneys told to go after pot traffickers, not patients - CNN.com

    My Way News - Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy

    Justice Department: Will Not Pursue Medical Marijuana Where Legal | Cogent Nirvana

    Federal government won't target medical marijuana patients or suppliers in states where it's legal | News from The Post-Standard -

    I could post a hundred links.

    All you republican A-holes out there slamming the Obama administration - I want you to THINK about this for a second. Use your own brain (if you have one) and don't let Rush Limpdick do your thinking FOR you........

    It was already legal in MANY states while Bush was in office. But nobody wanted to take the risk.

    It took a DEMOCRAT in the White House to make ALL of you comfortable enough to actually even DISCUSS this subject in open forums. It took a DEMOCRAT to LESSen the pressure from the Feds and allow you to HAVE the personal FREEDOMS that all you stupid republicans are always bitching about.

    You bunch of dumb fukkers!!

    The republicans wouldn't allow you those personal freedoms -- would they?!?!?

    The republicans went full speed ahead and prosecuted every patient, caregiver and grower they could catch. They would not allow the citizens of this country the personal freedoms we VOTED on.

    Now a Democrat takes office and shows promise. He tells the Feds to relax a bit about MMJ.

    And you stupid fukkers have the nerve to come here and bash him for it?

    :S4: Stupid fucking republicans. Grow a brain!!

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    #19
    Senior Member

    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by Markass
    ...DC??s medical marijuana bill was written with the same sort of open language as was passed in California? will we be seeing marijuana dispensaries on K Street anytime soon?

    This surprised the shit out of me
    holy shite! that surprises me too! that is too cool, tip for the President and all other DC residence . . plant outdoor herbs right before the last frost to help germinate. :greenthumb:

    its funny I was just looking at this map below and the other day and thinking we need a green dot for Washington DC. now if we could just get Oklahoma to even a light green that would be great, fully mature bud green would be even better :jointsmile:. . .

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    #20
    Senior Member

    Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?

    Quote Originally Posted by boaz
    ^ didn't mean to sound so rude IR. i should never post until after a bowl or two. :jointsmile: :stoned:
    no offense taken, my friend :thumbsup: ... you're correct, anyway, it IS only my opinion ... I tend to be the Devil's Advocate on legalization, etc., because I've been watching our battles for so many decades ... I'm pretty jaded, and adhere to the 'follow the money' principle: " too many people making tons of money BECAUSE pot is illegal " ... I gotta stick with what I've seen, and I still say legalization ain't gonna happen, on the Federal level ... Obama/Holder's weakass speeches, did NOT change ONE single law ... (I'm surprised the democrats didn't notice that ) ... have a wonderful Christmas :thumbsup:

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