i know what you guys are saying man, i hate when people torch the shit out of my buddha, damnnnn you just have to light the bowl once and keep it rolling and i hate when you got your friends friends there and you wanna toke but then again you dont wanna skimp urself out by being in a big circle so nowaday i dont get caught up in big circles i say match or hit the road. i know ima greedy sonofabitch:jointsmile: