Quote Originally Posted by SirSmellyEwic
why yes, this helps prove my point quite well. when you treat people like animals, they will behave as such. when you treat individuals as commodities... then this is the type of chaos that breaks out when you lose control.

I'm talking about changing society completely. Because human nature isn't genetic or biological... it's sociological. It can be changed... it has changed. During feudalism... property rights were controlled by a very few, yet, the surfs while still a lower class, had sustenance rights... the right to food, shelter etc... everyone had these rights... under capitalism we do not have these basic rights... we must "prove our worth" to the capitalists wallet... or die. so yes when this system breaks down... there will be initial chaos... the capitalists will reap what they have sewn. However, if we step in and change the basic structure of society before this system fails... which it will given time and further mental retardation by CEOs n Presidents n congresses who support them.... if we change it... this is not what "human nature" or the nature of society will look like. it is what it looks like now. which is why we need law enforcement... but not revenge and punishment....

Norway has a prison system where the longest sentence is 22 years. The person over their prison system has a PhD in Philosophy. They retrain convicted felons... and treat them as people, and pay them a normal wage for work they complete. There is no stigma attached to them... and thus, Norway has the lowest crime rates in the world. Because there is no repeat offenders... once they are rehabilitated... they do not go back to crime. Here, we just throw em in a cage n piss em off for 20 years or so, then we let em out and expect them to have "learned their lesson", when we have taught them no such lesson, other than people are sadistic resentful followers of slave morality. and we wonder why they do what they do.

now if there is any wonder as to why we have the highest crime of any country and house over 40% of the worlds prison population this is it. correctional facilities...riiiiggghht what are we to conclude but that they first make criminals and then punish them for it. maybe if all these top dogs smoked a little things wouldnt be this bad...oh wait they do:wtf: