Prisons are privately owned? WTF?

[Phunnyman]

:thumbsup:

Prisons have been privately run capitalist ventures for YEARS in this country. It's nothing new. Some of you younger folks are just now finding out the truth - thats all. Old farts, like me, have known this for years.

Thats why there are so many people in prison for petty drug offenses. It's all about the money. It's all about greed.

Corporate America runs this country and don't you forget it. :wtf:

Nobody dared open an MMJ dispensary during the Bush yrs. (2000-2008) - even though MMJ had been legalized in many states already. It wasn't until Obama (a Democrat :thumbsup took over the White House that people started to operate dispensaries, write prescriptions and pass laws to regulate the MMJ business.

Republicans are bad for working Americans. Republicans are bad for your freedom!! I wish people would wake up and see that for themselves.

You couldn't be more wrong on your statement in my opinion. It was the individual state governments that decided to use corporate prisons to reduce costs because of guess what? State budgets out of control. Hello California?

No FEDERAL prison is operated by a corporation.

It is so easy for some of you to blame President Bush and his administration when in fact it is CONGRESS that made and allowed decisions such as these. Who has controlled congress for most of the past 60 years? The democrats.

Marijuana was made illegal in 1938 under a machine gun law, by who? Democrats who controlled congress because of what? Racism fueled by economic hardships whites were having in finding jobs. Look it up.

True conservatives want government including the dea and everyone else out of our lives, because the best government is the one that governs the least. It is up to the states to grow a set of balls and exert states rights as to what is legal and illegal in their boundry's. I suggest reading the Federalist Papers.

Voting democrat today only increases socialism and communism to further increase as seen from the past year. Bush was by no means perfect, but blaming ONE person is to state that ONE person runs this country. NOT TRUE!

I teach political science and economics at both the high school and university level. I hold PhD's in both. It is the socialist mind set that thinks the democrat party who has enabled people to remain dependent upon government for DECADES, starting with welfare in the thirties. And that was supposed to be a temporary program. Look at it now.... a way of life for so many who refuse to look for work. (some people do deserve to be on it because of issues they are unable to overcome) All people who vote democrat are really doing is SWITCHING MASTERS and inviting more expanded government control into their lives, and allowing their liberties to be further trampled.

The Great Depression was created by Roosevelt and his administration and congress. (Never let a crisis go unused...sound familiar? Obama and this socialist congress are using the exact same tactics, and the exact same outcome is coming....), It was a recession that begun under Hoovers administration as a result of no banking oversight, easily overextended credit, investing through speculation, and states that could not control their own budgets....sound familiar again?) These are facts. Roosevelt expanded government so greatly and deeply during that recession, that it became a depression that took a decade and a world war to pull our country out of. History is repeating itself, again.

Marijuana dispenseries were in fact in operation in California during the Bush years, many actually started during his presidency, it was the state of California that has not until recently had the balls to exert states rights, and trying to force the dea to abide by their state laws and is still dealing with that issue.

I don't care who anyone votes for, but I respectfully would suggest looking at the facts before making comments about parties and assigning blame when in fact it is the exact oppostite.

[PufferLungs]

You couldn't be more wrong on your statement in my opinion. It was the individual state governments that decided to use corporate prisons to reduce costs because of guess what? State budgets out of control. Hello California?

No FEDERAL prison is operated by a corporation.

It is so easy for some of you to blame President Bush and his administration when in fact it is CONGRESS that made and allowed decisions such as these. Who has controlled congress for most of the past 60 years? The democrats.

Marijuana was made illegal in 1938 under a machine gun law, by who? Democrats who controlled congress because of what? Racism fueled by economic hardships whites were having in finding jobs. Look it up.

True conservatives want government including the dea and everyone else out of our lives, because the best government is the one that governs the least. It is up to the states to grow a set of balls and exert states rights as to what is legal and illegal in their boundry's. I suggest reading the Federalist Papers.

Voting democrat today only increases socialism and communism to further increase as seen from the past year. Bush was by no means perfect, but blaming ONE person is to state that ONE person runs this country. NOT TRUE!

I teach political science and economics at both the high school and university level. I hold PhD's in both. It is the socialist mind set that thinks the democrat party who has enabled people to remain dependent upon government for DECADES, starting with welfare in the thirties. And that was supposed to be a temporary program. Look at it now.... a way of life for so many who refuse to look for work. (some people do deserve to be on it because of issues they are unable to overcome) All people who vote democrat are really doing is SWITCHING MASTERS and inviting more expanded government control into their lives, and allowing their liberties to be further trampled.

The Great Depression was created by Roosevelt and his administration and congress. (Never let a crisis go unused...sound familiar? Obama and this socialist congress are using the exact same tactics, and the exact same outcome is coming....), It was a recession that begun under Hoovers administration as a result of no banking oversight, easily overextended credit, investing through speculation, and states that could not control their own budgets....sound familiar again?) These are facts. Roosevelt expanded government so greatly and deeply during that recession, that it became a depression that took a decade and a world war to pull our country out of. History is repeating itself, again.

Marijuana dispenseries were in fact in operation in California during the Bush years, many actually started during his presidency, it was the state of California that has not until recently had the balls to exert states rights, and trying to force the dea to abide by their state laws and is still dealing with that issue.

I don't care who anyone votes for, but I respectfully would suggest looking at the facts before making comments about parties and assigning blame when in fact it is the exact oppostite.

Another kool aid republican.

Fail

[Phunnyman]

Calling names is the best you can do?

I didn't insult you, call you names or anything else. I disagreed with you and explained in a concise intelligent and articulate way as to why. BTW I'm a libertarian who believes in the United States Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and individual freedoms above all else.

I THOUGHT this was a forum to openly discuss issues concerning our individual freedom.

Look up everything I shared, these are facts, not opinions. And I'm not even defending Bush, not one of my favorites either

Best of luck to you.

[jamessr]

phunnyman has it pretty much on point. I am neither of the 2 party system, because they lie, cheat, and steal from us all.

Our system is corrupted beyond belief by both parties working against us all. We the people are the losers in our system each year that goes by, no matter who is in office in any department.

[Phunnyman]

Agreed, we need to take back power from those who rule us and restore our country back to for the people by the people. So much misinformation is out there, like the government lets corporations run our prisons. It begins with the state governments and theose we elect to congress, not a party, not a president, etc.... EVERY President campaigns on change and look what happens, same old song and dance, business as usual.

Get active, stand up to BOTH party's and demand that you are represented by those you elect, and remind them that they can be fired in the next election if they fail to stand up for you. And most importantly, do not rely upon actors, hollywood, the news media (talk about being bought and paid for) or what the spin machines of these party's tell you.

Some of my closest friends are those who are completely opposite of where I stand politically, socially, religously, etc... but we have one thing in common, we are NOT happy with the way things have gone for a quite a long time and we are educating ourselves with facts, not hatred.

[boaz]

...True conservatives want government including the dea and everyone else out of our lives, because the best government is the one that governs the least. It is up to the states to grow a set of balls and exert states rights as to what is legal and illegal in their boundry's. I suggest reading the Federalist Papers.
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:smokin: amen brother.

point of information, Cali had MMJ coops even before Prop 215 was passed by the voters in 1996. After Californian's passed Prop 215 and MMJ became the official law of the land there, Democratic President Bill Clinton tried to prosecute the doctors of California, as well as the patients, but the Supreme Court called bs, and struck him down.

[TheChameleon]

Jail is a place that shelters millions of homeless. Every good must have bad in it's recipe.

[gypski]

yeah, pretty fucked up, hu? they trade on the stock exchange, too, lots in the portfolios of the big dogs that own DC. It has been a constant growth industry thoughout the normal business cycles for decades. :wtf:

Its the new manufacturing sector. Manufacturing non-violent cannabis criminals for the criminal justice system. Money, money, money!!!. :jointsmile:

[gypski]

You couldn't be more wrong on your statement in my opinion. It was the individual state governments that decided to use corporate prisons to reduce costs because of guess what? State budgets out of control. Hello California?

No FEDERAL prison is operated by a corporation.

It is so easy for some of you to blame President Bush and his administration when in fact it is CONGRESS that made and allowed decisions such as these. Who has controlled congress for most of the past 60 years? The democrats.

Marijuana was made illegal in 1938 under a machine gun law, by who? Democrats who controlled congress because of what? Racism fueled by economic hardships whites were having in finding jobs. Look it up.

True conservatives want government including the dea and everyone else out of our lives, because the best government is the one that governs the least. It is up to the states to grow a set of balls and exert states rights as to what is legal and illegal in their boundry's. I suggest reading the Federalist Papers.

Voting democrat today only increases socialism and communism to further increase as seen from the past year. Bush was by no means perfect, but blaming ONE person is to state that ONE person runs this country. NOT TRUE!

I teach political science and economics at both the high school and university level. I hold PhD's in both. It is the socialist mind set that thinks the democrat party who has enabled people to remain dependent upon government for DECADES, starting with welfare in the thirties. And that was supposed to be a temporary program. Look at it now.... a way of life for so many who refuse to look for work. (some people do deserve to be on it because of issues they are unable to overcome) All people who vote democrat are really doing is SWITCHING MASTERS and inviting more expanded government control into their lives, and allowing their liberties to be further trampled.

The Great Depression was created by Roosevelt and his administration and congress. (Never let a crisis go unused...sound familiar? Obama and this socialist congress are using the exact same tactics, and the exact same outcome is coming....), It was a recession that begun under Hoovers administration as a result of no banking oversight, easily overextended credit, investing through speculation, and states that could not control their own budgets....sound familiar again?) These are facts. Roosevelt expanded government so greatly and deeply during that recession, that it became a depression that took a decade and a world war to pull our country out of. History is repeating itself, again.

Marijuana dispenseries were in fact in operation in California during the Bush years, many actually started during his presidency, it was the state of California that has not until recently had the balls to exert states rights, and trying to force the dea to abide by their state laws and is still dealing with that issue.

I don't care who anyone votes for, but I respectfully would suggest looking at the facts before making comments about parties and assigning blame when in fact it is the exact oppostite.

I beg to differ in one respect. When Carter was president, and IF he had gotten an second term honestly (no Iran hostage, Iran/contra bullshit) he would have followed the recommendation of the Schaffer report and cannabis would not be treated today as it has been by GOP presidents. Nixon, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. And since the so-called 1994 GOP Revolution, things have gotten far worse then during Carter.

True, a good government is less government but making that happen is nearly impossible today. It has become too intrenched an has become an occupation. The founders intended to have representatives and senators have their real occupations as shopkeepers and the like, not lawyers and career politicians. :twocents:

[senorx12562]

The only difference between the Dems and Reps in this context is what they lock you up for, not the overall incarceration rates. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Obama just wants to lock us up for not having health insurance or "hate speech" instead of possession. A distinction without a difference.