Noob with plant problems with pics. Can you help? Please?

[rob25san]

I just wanted to introduce myself to the forum. First time growing. (medical marijuana license holder). Been lurking around a bit. Anyway, I have some fully rooted clones that have been out of flourescent stages for 2.5days now. They came to me trimmed as you see, and had some some coloration problems.

There are four different strains shown here. If you need to know the strains, let me know.

I set my light 3.5 feet from the plants First day. Second day I lowered it a foot. It proved to be to close it seems as the plants started curling upward and looked to be heat stressed. Now the light is back up to 3.5ft. The seemed to recover slightly.

I am using a 1000w MH bulb. What can you tell me by looking at the pics? Light bleached? Nutrient issues? Watering or PH issues? PH set to 6 anytime we water. These are the best pics I could get in that lighting enviornment. WE are hand watering using organic nutrients. Mounted in 6" hugo blocks, with rapid rooter pods.

We also have a 1000w HPS set up in that room also. Should we use it? Table is 4x8 and has 12 plants total on it. Room is 12x12ft There are all spaced under just the MH light right now and the table space being used right now is maybe 3ftx3ft.

We have the light vented and room temp kept between 70-75deg using intake/exhaust air from outdoors, and 30percent humidity. Room is inside a house, and the room has sealed doors and windows.

Any help will be SO MUCH appreciated. Seriously. Thank You!

rob25san Reviewed by rob25san on 12-04-2009. Noob with plant problems with pics. Can you help? Please? I just wanted to introduce myself to the forum. First time growing. (medical marijuana license holder). Been lurking around a bit. Anyway, I have some fully rooted clones that have been out of flourescent stages for 2.5days now. They came to me trimmed as you see, and had some some coloration problems. There are four different strains shown here. If you need to know the strains, let me know. I set my light 3.5 feet from the plants First day. Second day I lowered it a foot. It Rating: 5

[rob25san]

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PS we mixed the nutrients to the specs shown for seedlings. I am using "BOTANICARE Pure Blend Pro Grow" organic nutrients. Watering once or twice a day with PH balanced (6) mixture with distilled water.

New growth in center of plant comes in yellowish. Tall plants or wide spread out leaves seem yellowed.

[the image reaper]

you made it real easy for me, when ya said distilled water ... not good, bad ... your leaves are showing a magnesium deficiency ... add 10ml of Cal-Mag+ per gallon of water ... not distilled ... plain tapwater, let it sit out overnite, the chlorine evaporates ... good luck :smokin:

[rob25san]

you made it real easy for me, when ya said distilled water ... not good, bad ... your leaves are showing a magnesium deficiency ... add 10ml of Cal-Mag+ per gallon of water ... not distilled ... plain tapwater, let it sit out overnite, the chlorine evaporates ... good luck :smokin:

Thank You! I tried that and we will see what happens. Any other pointers? Do I need to add anything else besides cal-Mag and my nutrients ever?
I will keep you informed.

[rob25san]

you made it real easy for me, when ya said distilled water ... not good, bad ... your leaves are showing a magnesium deficiency ... add 10ml of Cal-Mag+ per gallon of water ... not distilled ... plain tapwater, let it sit out overnite, the chlorine evaporates ... good luck :smokin:

So far so good Reaper! They look alot better today. Your a life saver. Thanks for responding!

[rob25san]

After I added a second 1000w light, the leaves seem to be yellowing on the new growth, and the old growth is in general bad health.

Alot of the photos show old light burn/stress, that was cured, and kinda came back. Now new growth is yellowish? You can see it best on the largest plant photo. (pic 1 and 2). I did give them nutes and water about 4 hours before the photos, so maybe it will get better. The plant still is gaining alot of new growth. Yesterday my room hit 85deg for a couple hours, and since than they seem dry and yellowed out a bit, but could be the new light too.

What am I doing wrong? I have them in a 12x12 room on a 4x8 table using only the center of the table. 12 plants. two 1000w lights. 1 MH and 1 HPS. Temps are stable 73-77deg humidity is around 30% and there is intake exhaust fans and a small fan blowing on the plants for cross winds. The plants dont seem to be getting to hot.

They are 1 week old under the big lights. Got them as clones a week ago and eased them into bigger lights. There is some minor drooping as well as leave tips pointing downward.

Some of the yellowing is exaggerated by the lights or my camera setting. (pic 3 and 5) Pic 4 is the best of my plants, its proven unkillable. Pic 5 is the worst of my plants, but new growth is evident still. One particular plant has 3leaf sets, and 4 leaf sets, and 5 leaf. Mutant? Hermie candidate?

Any help would be great! I love this forum, and will contribute when my knowledge is up to par.

[rob25san]

More plants, more pics.

[rob25san]

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)

1000w Mh and 1000w HPS both on at the same time

.2) Distance from tops?

3ft

.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)

Batwing

.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?

YES

.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?

YES
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?

1000w x 2 bulbs. Not sure on the others

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)

6" hugo blocks. Heavily rooted clones in Rapid Rooter Pods

.8) Size of container.

6"

.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?

Dont Know

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?

Tap water set out overnight.

11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)

Vial and droplets to change color

12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)

PH UP DOWN

13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.

Botanicaire Organic Pro


14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?

Daily with Nutes. Waited two Days most recently.

15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)

Botanicaire Cal Mag and the Superthrive.

16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?

Stable as I can keep them. They flutuate in the medium. 6.0 on top 6.5 on bottom of the Hugo Block.

17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?

5 Ingowing, 6 outgoing

18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?

No

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?
Indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut?
12x12
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?

71-77deg 30% humidity. Lights on 24/7.

22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?

NO

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)

Indica Dominant. White Rhino, White Widow, Sour Diesel, BlueBerry

24) From seeds or clones?

Clones
25) Is this an autoflower strain?

Not sure?