CO2 and natrual gas line?

[devilvenom]

anybody know how i, if can hook up my dryers gas to a co2 generator, will post a pic as soon as i can?

devilvenom Reviewed by devilvenom on 12-02-2009. CO2 and natrual gas line? anybody know how i, if can hook up my dryers gas to a co2 generator, will post a pic as soon as i can? Rating: 5

[Prodaytrader]

I see no problem with splitting off a gas line to be used for additional equipment. I will have to assume that you know what your doing when you say you need a natural gas line for the c02 generator. Not all gas is created equal you know and different parts of the country use different gases in their home. Since I don't know your setup I couldn't say whether it would be easier to split at the meter, behind the dryer or somewhere in between. Some homes, plenty for that mater use no gas and some use everything gas. They make gas a/c, gas stoves, gas everything.

A gas line is serious business and technically you need to be a licensed plumber to even touch a gas line. Most cities require a permit and license before touching a gas line since one wrong move will cause the entire block to burn down not to mention your death either from an explosion or a small leak that goes unnoticed. Enough of that.

Gas lines are easily joined with a compression fitting. Most gas lines are hard copper lines because they want to ensure no leaks. Any leak is your enemy. If you know what your doing and have the skill set then I would recommend doing it like this:

First shut the gas off to the home
Turn on something gas fed in the home and ignite to ensure all gas is bled from line to home.
Cut the copper line where you want to insert a "T" fitting
Use compression "T" fitting(type compression nut in google to get an idea of what I'm talking about) One end will go to the old line for the dryer, one end to wherever the line came from and the final line will be for your new tool.
Once the "T" fitting is installed then connect your new line to the Co2 unit.
Use thread tape everywhere to prevent leaks and make tight connections
Before closing everything back up, turn the gas on and test for leaks. Contrary to popular opinion the best way to test for leaks is not with a match, warm soapy water bushed across all the fittings will show you where you made sloppy connections.

I would advise doing this as early in the day as possible so you have time to undo what you did if you screw it up. You don't want to sleep in the cold tonight waiting for a plumber to show up tomorrow. Home Depot can show you what parts you need if you can find someone willing to overlook the fact that your working on a gas line. Sometimes those clerks can get real upitty when they figure out your doing something you probably aught not be doing. I had a guy totally chew my ass out one time when I told him I wanted to run a water line into my attic. LOL He was crying about the fire department not having enough line pressure to put out a fire and on and on.

You will be fine. Lot's of people replace their hot water heater without too many issues but then again several times a year people die during the same process so be careful.

[RoundEye]

Without a doubt, get a certified contractor to do this for you. If your house burns to the ground or you kill half the family you'll be glad you did. Even if the burner is not the direct cause of any ill events, you'll not be covered by insurance.

Last week I installed a new 20amp circuit into my grow space. I paid a fortune but now I'm covered. If I burn my entire house down, there will be no dispute of a code violation as the cause. It was to code.

[devilvenom]

i can run it straight to the generator what would it take do do that, cuz if its that risky i just wouldn't fuck with it, but knowledge never hurts!

[Mississippi Steve]

A gas line is serious business and technically you need to be a licensed plumber to even touch a gas line. Most cities require a permit and license before touching a gas line since one wrong move will cause the entire block to burn down not to mention your death either from an explosion or a small leak that goes unnoticed. Enough of that.

Gas lines are easily joined with a compression fitting. Most gas lines are hard copper lines because they want to ensure no leaks. Any leak is your enemy. If you know what your doing and have the skill set then I would recommend doing it like this:

Compression fittings are *NOT* permitted on *ANY* fuel gas lines. If its natural gas, use black iron(per IMC 2008), if its propane, copper lines are permitted... but with flair fittings only(double flair prefered).

[Prodaytrader]

I assumed that since they were water proof they would also be gas proof but I could be wrong about that. Actually I'm not: "Compression fittings are the industry standard for chemical, oil and gas, R&D, Bio-tech, and the Semiconductor industry. They are used due to their ability to provide leak tight seals." Wiki Steve doesn't realize that compression fittings are also known as flair fittings. Doesn't matter, you got the screw type fittings anyway. Whatever the proper fitting technology I know that all hardware stores have a gas repair section with all the appropriate lines and fittings to complete the job and I'm pretty sure I have seen gas lines that were using an easy process.

It looks to me that on this side of the on/off you can unscrew that fitting right? Make sure that the on/off stays on the other side of your work so that you can use that valve if you need too. I would think you could take the piece you screwed off and match it up with an appropriate "T" fitting from the hardware store. You might even think about doing a shut off valve to the line headed to your machine. This way you can cut the supply of your machine without affecting the dryer. Those fittings are tight so make sure and put them back that way.

There is nothing crazy about gas other then it will explode to flame. The same reasons they want contractors in there is the same reasons some states wont let you fuel your own car. Some retard blew himself up a while back and screwed it up for the rest of us. If you can work with hydraulics or electronics then you can work with gas. The only difference is that you cant make a mistake like you can with hydraulics. Heck even electrical wiring can kill you if you don't know what your doing, which is why they want licensed contracts for that too.

If you weren't willing to bend the rules in the first place, then tell me again what your doing that's so high and mighty? Just bleed the lines prior to doing any work, make complete certain that you have no leaks before using any flames, and match up the fittings to an appropriate "T" union at the parts store.

[Prodaytrader]

are you even using the end of the connection? Upon further review it looks like the left part of that picture there is a silver compression nut that is not connected to anything. Is that what where the dryer used to hook up? If it has a hole in the middle of it and the nut comes off then you can just hook a compression fitting to the end of that line in place of that silver nut you took off only this time stick a copper line through the middle of it and a valve. Connect the other end of your copper line to another compression fitting and then to the machine. Just match up the thread sizes to both this fitting and the machine. I should think a 1/4" copper line or even better, something high tech and flexible if there is such a thing. They have flexible water pipe that hold much more pressure then a gas line ever would. I just looked it up, gas lines in the home are typically .2 to .3 psi and in newer homes anywhere from 2 to 50 psi. I was just farting around with a high pressure aeroponic this past week that was working with pressures of upwards of 60psi. You do the math. A water leak at 60 psi is no more pleasant to work with then a gas leak would be. Only difference would be if a match was near by.

[Mississippi Steve]

Sorry Prodaytrader dude, compression and flair fittings are 2 different animals. You really need to read the International Mechanical Code, as well as the Gas Code books before you go tellin folks how to run gas lines. Yes natural gas and propane have different requirements for the piping materials, as well as the fittings. Maybe you should stick to your own vocation before you kill somebody with your ignorance.

FWIW, I am a certified Master HVAC Technician, as well as a heating and air conditioning contractor in real life and have to deal with this kind of stuff on a daily basis. There is a reason that licensed professionals are *REQUIRED* for working on any fuel gas lines, pull permits, and have the building inspectors check out the work.