yeah, old Lip was frequently stirring the shit, lol ... I liked Lip a lot, he was one of my favorite members, never a dull moment ... Orangeman was banned for being under 18 (and, he took it like a man, and was not offended) :thumbsup: ... Orangeman, despite his age, was one of the most mature, and intelligent posters here on Cannabis.com, I like him a lot ... he's of age now, I'd like to see more of him here, he was a positive influence :thumbsup: