thanks for the advice redtails i think that 5 bucks is a a lttle to cheap to sell em and thats a good idea to tell him that there not femz but he grows too so he should know the odds ......so if i buld a growbox its gonna be harder to maintain the 70 80 degree window ??? cause my closet stay about 68-70f but i dont like not having lock but i go the temp tig down so i think ill keep my coset setup heres some picks