need help with my mother plants... ph troubles?

[bunny0891]

What is your experience level? first timer

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights: CFL's
.2) Distance from tops? around 15 cm from the top
.3) Reflector type? reflectors for dulux l
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? YES
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? YES
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?
2 x 36 watt CFL's (2 x Dulux l Lumilux Daylight (860/865) with 2750 lm)

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil: Composana soil with perlite
.8) Size of container: 1 liter.
.9) Did you use peat pucks? YES

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? Rain water. What's it's ph before adjusting? around 7,0
11) Method of checking water ph: Hanna ph checker soon
12) Method of adjusting water ph: PH Up and down
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle: fish mix - 3ml = 1 liter water
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
when the container is light in weight/every 2, 3 or 4 days


Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? indoor
20) What size of closet, room or hut? closet 45 cm x 45 cm and 50 cm height
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? 20 - 21 ° celsius ...With lights off? 18° celsius - 60% humidity
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? yes, trips and black fungus gnat _ but under controll

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? Indica/sativa Mandala#1
24) From seeds or clones? clones
25) Is this an autoflower strain? NO


Hello there, I'm having some problems with my plants and I don't know what to do next... These mother plants where born around late August of 2009 as clones indoor. I decided to put all of these plants outdoors to let them get some sun and they were doing very well. I only let the plants outside for 10 hours and the other 8 hours indoors. I give them rain water from a bucket and fish mix every 3 days. So, now there indoors and no longer outside because it is too cold. Since they have been indoors there starting to look discolored (see attached pics). I think it is because of the PH balance and for a while I haven't checked the PH. Obviously, it was not needed for them being outdoors...so now I just ordered a Hanna Ph checker and want to give my mother plants the right level of PH balance but still unsure of what to do exactly. Please help me if you have any good tips!!

xoxo Bunny

ps. notice: I put the perlite 2cm on top of soil to keep the black fungus gnat away. (yellow stickers are included as well :thumbsup

bunny0891 Reviewed by bunny0891 on 11-16-2009. need help with my mother plants... ph troubles? What is your experience level? first timer Your Equipment: .1) Type and wattage of lights: CFL's .2) Distance from tops? around 15 cm from the top .3) Reflector type? reflectors for dulux l .4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? YES .5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? YES .6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 2 x 36 watt CFL's (2 x Dulux l Lumilux Daylight (860/865) with 2750 lm) Rating: 5

[GodBud]

I think I would transplant into larger containers 1 liter seems a bit small. Do you have good drainage? They don't look terrible but for as long as you have had them down they should be a lot bigger than that. I would up the nutes and go with a larger container!

Best of Luck!

[wingman580]

Dude,

When plants are indoor it means exactly that, they are not subject to the whims of weather, insects, and temperature. Not that you dont realize this now but one can pull outdoor plants / clones indoors but unless you are propagating for outdoor growth with outdoor plants not a good idea to do the opposite as you have learned.
Many have hoped "some fresh air and sun" would help their indoor plants and it will if they go into a window inside, but when subjected to outside insects and disease you now have a headache re-introducing them to a near sterile enviroment.

Good luck all will eventually be OK.

[JackdaWack]

I think u need some cal/mag, if ur using rain water and just nutes, u def. need to add some.

[phatsesh101]

knowing ph is good place to start then prob some micros

[bunny0891]

Thanks guys! hehe

I want to grow bonsai mums in smaller pots.

May I add to my fish mix some guano to get more cal/mag? Or what can I add? I read this somewhere,"The Mums need just enough fertiliser to keep them healthy. Feed of half strength fertiliser twice a month, using say a 6-2-4 fish mix as about right [its not critical]! This keeps them in good general health but doesn't over feed them". ( I got this from ''All about Bonsai Mums'' in 1 liter pots)

I need help with this seriously, if anyone can give me more advice it would be greatly appreciated. :smokin:

[bunny0891]

Today I got my ph checker...

And I got:

Soil = 6,2
Rain water = 6,0
Tap water = 8,0
Rain water (1liter) with 3 ml fishmix = 5,8

:wtf: So it shouldn't be a problem with my ph.

I just will raise the ph now to 6,2 by adding a little bit of my tap water.
Is that a good idea? Or what else should I add to get them more healthy?
I still have some Guano(NPK 6-4-5) here, but it is an organic/minerally fertilizer. I don't know if Guano will be good together with fish mix(NPK 6-2-4)?

xoxo

[bunny0891]

PS. @ GodBud - My drain seems to be ok. I always stop watering when I notice the water starts to come out from the bottom and the pots feel heavy.

[bunny0891]

I have given the plants full strength fish mix and it looks like there color is coming back!! Should I continue with full strength of the fish mix or stop after they are back in good health?? I just want to be sure that I don't over feed them.