Khalid Sheik Mohammed Gets Civilian New York Court

[Islandborn]

i'm guessing you've never actually been to California, am i right? don't believe the sterotypes, they are mostly wrong. mostly.

My sister-in-law lives in LA, went to Aveeda school there........been to California prolly 20 times in my life......from North to South.

[Islandborn]

I was watching all the rich white kids with dreads protesting the RAISE in tuition at Berkley over the weekend.....so these are college level kids right...they really cant put it together that its these tired ass socialist policies their elected officials install thats doing this right? Skip the protests kiddies and catch an economics class between pilates and vegan living

[cannamanibus]

Way off topic here...sorry. Whats up with dudes wearing clothes with Rhinestones on them? Fuckin Ed Hardy......since fucking when did it become socially acceptable for a grown ass man to wear little sparkly gems on his clothes and be cool......cause you fuckin aint. Shits whack as a motherwhatever.

And while Im on it........if your over.....say 25....putting rims on ur ride stops making ya look cool and starts making ya look gay.....same with the Affliction shirts...its dead already......LET IT GO.

sorry.... back to the world.

Tell me about it man, WTF. Ed Hardy... thats funny. Ima katch the Kappa tho... this year in the Gtown. hahaha

[boaz]

I grew up in the Bay Area(Redwood City) in the late 60s, and early 70s.... he's dead on for the Peoples Republic of Berkeley.
If you want real conservatives, move to the deep south.

thats true but the time ghost changed. :stoned: when I was at the UC's, the mighty dollar was king. even more so at Bezerkely from what I could tell.

but that said, yeah, white guys in dread locks. :wtf: but that's college these days. I bet you'd find the same dudes in Austin right now. :rastasmoke:

[boaz]

I was watching all the rich white kids with dreads protesting the RAISE in tuition at Berkley over the weekend.....so these are college level kids right...they really cant put it together that its these tired ass socialist policies their elected officials install thats doing this right? Skip the protests kiddies and catch an economics class between pilates and vegan living

:jointsmile: protesting is a long proud tradition for the UC's.
:s4:

I took my LSAT exams in the middle of the protest over the first gulf war. no worries, tho, still aced it and made it down to Westwood in time to take some great photos of the event. imp:

[Dreadscale]

Bring them to Trial anywhere in the states, It won't matter.

I don't care if it is a Red state or a Blue state if the evidence is there to convict them, they will be convicted!

I see all the FEAR mongering instigated by the Fascist Right.
The only thing to be really fearful of is that the dirty deeds of the previous administration may come to light.

If we cower from our duty to bring them to a fair trial, they win.
The whole idea of TERRORIST is to make us scared!!

I'm sorry but I'm not.

[Mississippi Steve]

Bring them to Trial anywhere in the states, It won't matter.

I don't care if it is a Red state or a Blue state if the evidence is there to convict them, they will be convicted!

I see all the FEAR mongering instigated by the Fascist Right.
The only thing to be really fearful of is that the dirty deeds of the previous administration may come to light.

If we cower from our duty to bring them to a fair trial, they win.
The whole idea of TERRORIST is to make us scared!!

I'm sorry but I'm not.

I'm not sorry either.... those klowns are prisoners of war. they should be tried either by a military tribunal, or send 'em to the world court in the Netherlands.
There is absolutely no reason to even think about a US court. It will be a media circus the likes of which, we have never seen before.

Who's gonna *PAY* for all that crap :wtf:

[Dreadscale]

I see Prisoner of War mentioned a lot!!
Prisoner of what War? The neverending War on Terror?
They have never had the protection of POW status as outlined in the Geneva Convention.


These guys are common criminals!!!
Mass Murderers!!!
They don't deserve POW status.
Read it here Are Al-Qaida Prisoners of War?

What International Law Says
The principal conventions governing prisoners of war are the Hague Convention of 1907 and the Geneva Convention of 1949. U.S. policies are spelled out in The Law of Land Warfare, Army Field Manual FM 27-10.

The Hague and Geneva Conventions lay out four criteria defining prisoners of war. This is a direct quote.

a: that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates.
b: that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance.
c: that of carrying arms openly.
d: that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.

The conventions further stipulate:

That guerrillas and resistance movements are entitled to treatment as prisoners of war provided they fit the four criteria above.
That if a populace spontaneously rises up in defense of its territory without having time to organize formally, they are still entitled to treatment as prisoners of war provided they meet criteria c. and d.
That persons whose status is in doubt enjoy the protection of prisoner of war status until their status is determined by a "competent tribunal."
They are not prisoners of war, but are to be given the same treatment until their status is determined.

If Al-Qaida had never attacked the United States, but had merely fought us in Afghanistan, they would probably be entitled to the status of prisoners of war. But in its operations against the United States, Al-Qaida fails all four tests. While Al-Qaida has a chain of command, it does not accept responsibility for the actions of its operatives (or more to the point, considers any act that harms Americans legitimate). Open operations and conduct of operations in accord with the laws of war hardly need comment.

[boaz]

...
These guys are common criminals!!!
Mass Murderers!!!
They don't deserve POW status.
...

that is the way I see it, too. Giving them POW or trying them is the hague just gives them prestige that they do not deserve. try 'em and fry 'em in civy court as common murdering thugs. :twocents:

[Islandborn]

[quote=Dreadscale]Bring them to Trial anywhere in the states, It won't matter.

I don't care if it is a Red state or a Blue state if the evidence is there to convict them, they will be convicted!

I see all the FEAR mongering instigated by the Fascist Right.
The only thing to be really fearful of is that the dirty deeds of the previous administration may come to light.

If we cower from our duty to bring them to a fair trial, they win.
The whole idea of TERRORIST is to make us scared!!

I'm sorry but I'm not.[/QUOTe

Fascism is a product of the Left....same with our current socialist resurgence and communism. All part of the left....not the right. Nazis were leftist socialists spewing anti jew garbage...and slaughtered 6 million.

Im so tired of left and right....feels more like its either your a Democrat or a socialist nowadays......and people thought America was divided under Bush's crazy ass......So much for the One, four years and he's done.