1st Grow

[genuine]

I've had periods of moderate sucess...and then months of failure and then since I changed to doing it this way...I have great sucess, only loosing maybe 2-3 out of 25.

-I use standard 10x20 tray, with humidity dome. Fill it 2-3 inches with peralite. Water the peralite with warm water. Put it one a heating pad. And then use rapid rooter clone plugs per Stinky Attic sticky.

-I open vent 1/4 and don't touch them for 4 days. Then open the vent more and daily take the cover off for a few minutes. After a week I start checking for roots every other day, and if the plugs or peralite dry out I might add more warm water.

When I had my troubles I believe part of the issue was my cloning solution had gone bad. My hydro guy instructed me to keep it in fridge and use only a spoonful at a time. Now I get tiny sized portions from him, they are like $3 each and the size of carmex lip stuff. PERFECT. Sterile and sealed, open the thing. Do two trays, 40-50 clones total, and throw the thing out.

[senorx12562]

I've had periods of moderate sucess...and then months of failure and then since I changed to doing it this way...I have great sucess, only loosing maybe 2-3 out of 25.

-I use standard 10x20 tray, with humidity dome. Fill it 2-3 inches with peralite. Water the peralite with warm water. Put it one a heating pad. And then use rapid rooter clone plugs per Stinky Attic sticky.

-I open vent 1/4 and don't touch them for 4 days. Then open the vent more and daily take the cover off for a few minutes. After a week I start checking for roots every other day, and if the plugs or peralite dry out I might add more warm water.

When I had my troubles I believe part of the issue was my cloning solution had gone bad. My hydro guy instructed me to keep it in fridge and use only a spoonful at a time. Now I get tiny sized portions from him, they are like $3 each and the size of carmex lip stuff. PERFECT. Sterile and sealed, open the thing. Do two trays, 40-50 clones total, and throw the thing out.

Thank you for the input. I've figured out something that is working for me. I actually started off having too much water in the tray, but more importantly (I think) was spraying the clones with a wilt-stop type product. I also started using a tiny bit of H2O2 and Botanicare's Jump Start in my pre-soak of my rockwool cubes, and started with a lower ph for the pre-soak solution (5.5-5.8). I'm finally getting an acceptable success rate, so much so that now I could use more veg space. A good problem to have I suppose. Thanx again.

[LetsSeeYa]

I guess he likes them underfed, underwatered, and with so little turgidity that the drooping leaves restrict airflow, preventing efficient CO2/02 exchange and risking mold, fungus, and insect pests. :wtf:

I'd like to see what size pot that plant's in, too. Betcha too small.

Sorry, I tried not to comment on this, but IMO that's a poor representation of a nitrogen-deprived, but otherwise healthy plant.

LSY, if you know Green Man, tell him I recommend he take that girl out for dinner and a few drinks, and maybe buy her some new (bigger) shoes.

Sorry to thread-jack and be an asshole critic. But that's a pretty skanky-looking plant. Seriously. :hippy:

Oh i agree with what you are saying, i only came upon it while reading the site. Marijuana Growing Guide Free Library. It is a site that gives information about growing. But, there are ideas expressed on there that i have learned here, which are far different then experienced growers here. Now of course everyone as ''thier'' own methods, but some ideas are very different. Dont get me wrong i think there is some good info, but i tend to go with what the growers here advise, as i can see their results and that speaks for its self. But iv found some useful info there. I guess you need to buy into what makes sense. As far as that plant, didnt look right to me, but with senorx's problem i thought it would help him see that maybe his plants could be similer to what was called a healthy plant.

Interesting thing, he said to veg plants four months:wtf:. I guess if ya got
10' ceilings and a huge stash, no big deal but have never seen anyone do this:wtf:


BTW ya got more experiance then myself, so if i post some dumb ass info, set me right. It can only help me my friend and i can use as much tutoring as possible, so thank you:jointsmilereadedHermie:thumbsup:


:rasta:

[DreadedHermie]

As far as that plant, didnt look right to me, but with senorx's problem i thought it would help him see that maybe his plants could be similer to what was called a healthy plant.

I figgered that. I know you want to help. :thumbsup:

But Senor's plants look very good to me. Certainly better examples of N-hungry, but healthy, than the Green example. Senor's yellowing seems just a tad extensive for the plants' age, and it's affecting the younger plant structures a bit more than seems usual to me, but this may be 'normal' for his strain under his conditions. (At this point, Senor's thinking, "Would you quit talking about me in the third person in my own thread? :wtf

Here is the first page I landed on when I checked out Green's page. There is a lot of really, really bad advice here:

Bend a young plant's stem back and forth to force it to be very thick and strong. Spindly stems can not support heavy flowering growth. An internal oscillating fan will reduce humidity on the leave's stomata and improve the stem strength as well. The importance of internal air circulation can not be stressed enough. It will excursive the plants and make them grow stronger, while reducing many hazards that could ruin your crop.

HYDROPONIC VEGETATIVE SOLUTION, per gallon:
Miracle Grow Patio (contains trace elements) 1 teaspoon
Epsom salts 1/2 teaspoon
Human Urine (OPTIONAL - may create odors indoors.) 1/4 cup
Oxygen Plus Plant Food (OPTIONAL) 1 teaspoon
This mixture will insure your plants are getting all major and minor nutrients in solution, and will also be treating your plants with oxygen for good root growth, and potassium nitrate for good burning qualities. Another good GROWTH PHASE mix is 1/4 tsp Peter's 20/20/20 fertilizer per gallon of water, with trace elements and oxygen added, or fish emulsion. Fish emulsion is great in the green-house or outdoors, where smells are not an issue, but is not recommended for indoors, due to its strong odor.

Human urine? :lol5: Might help keep deer away, but as a soil amendment? :wtf:

Potassium nitrate to help "burning?" (If you're making cannon fuses, maybe...) :wtf: Wonder if he flushes his nutes...

Fans "reduce" humidity? (they might lower relative humidity if they raise the temperature enough)

WTF is "excursive" the plants??? (Excursive means "prone to digression")

Not to mention the contradiction between the stated importance of air circulation and the inability of that droopy-ass plant to permit it.

And if you add ALL the crap-ola he's recommending into a single gallon of nute solution, well, I'm looking for some tip burn just to start things off. Hope you're not running young sativas...

There is no "Greenman." That whole site's just a link-referral-sales B.S. entity, with obsolete, sketchy info stolen from other sites and not checked for accuracy. Their goal is to make $$$, not provide useful info to patients who need meds. That's what's got my goat; I have friends and relatives who depend on MMJ--and this whore could mislead them.

Rant off. Senor, here's your thread back, and again, I'm sorry. :hippy:

[senorx12562]

I figgered that. I know you want to help. :thumbsup:

But Senor's plants look very good to me. Certainly better examples of N-hungry, but healthy, than the Green example. Senor's yellowing seems just a tad extensive for the plants' age, and it's affecting the younger plant structures a bit more than seems usual to me, but this may be 'normal' for his strain under his conditions. (At this point, Senor's thinking, "Would you quit talking about me in the third person in my own thread? :wtf

Here is the first page I landed on when I checked out Green's page. There is a lot of really, really bad advice here:


Human urine? :lol5: Might help keep deer away, but as a soil amendment? :wtf:

Potassium nitrate to help "burning?" (If you're making cannon fuses, maybe...) :wtf: Wonder if he flushes his nutes...

Fans "reduce" humidity? (they might lower relative humidity if they raise the temperature enough)

WTF is "excursive" the plants??? (Excursive means "prone to digression")

Not to mention the contradiction between the stated importance of air circulation and the inability of that droopy-ass plant to permit it.

And if you add ALL the crap-ola he's recommending into a single gallon of nute solution, well, I'm looking for some tip burn just to start things off. Hope you're not running young sativas...

There is no "Greenman." That whole site's just a link-referral-sales B.S. entity, with obsolete, sketchy info stolen from other sites and not checked for accuracy. Their goal is to make $$$, not provide useful info to patients who need meds. That's what's got my goat; I have friends and relatives who depend on MMJ--and this whore could mislead them.

Rant off. Senor, here's your thread back, and again, I'm sorry. :hippy:

Its all good dh.

[superskunk1]

Beautiful plants senorx, I started my first grow and didn't invest 1/4 of what you did but as soon as my babies do well I will continue my grow similar to yours looks like it's working very well.

Congrats and I hope the yeild is great. Good luck

[senorx12562]

Thanx for stopping by. I should have some new pics up tonight or tomorrow.

[senorx12562]

As you can see, my girls have lost most of the chlorotic look that had me so worried. Some pretty tasty frosting developing too. Some of the main colas are starting to make the main stems sway quite a bit back and forth if bumped. I'm getting pretty pumped. What an emotional roller-coaster this pursuit is. Who'd 'a thunk it?:dance:

[Vancefish]

They look fabulous senor! :thumbsup:

Nice pics too. If you send any to a dispensary send me a PM, I'd like to try a little!

:hippy:

[DreadedHermie]

Beautiful! :thumbsup: