Miracle grow soil

[mainegrown]

always learning... if you dont you wont ever improve
-J

[jamessr]

I never said it wasn't a great plant product, did I? Not that I can see from my reviewed posts.

Hell my brother grew plants upto 12 feet tall with the stuff(liquid mix) and was some of the best cannabis I ever smoked, but that isn't or wasn't my point at all. I was pointing to the fact, that even the MG Company themselves have done heavy metal tests and report their findings. Their product has heavy metals, organic living organisms, animals, mammals after time absorb these heavy metals which in turn affect each differently.

Those of us who have qualifying or terminal medical conditions have some sort of compromise in our health, heavy metal build up can occur. As for the one's who are pro's at using this stuff without compromised health issues, :thumbsup:

For those who do have compromised health issues, should beware that this could potentially be harmful.

For those without the above, obviously have no concerns, correct?

[seventhchild]

should i toss it and go get me some high quaity soil or will I be alright for now

this is the situation as it.

[seventhchild]

My sentiments exactly. Your inability to see the situation as it is is laughable. (a good carpenter never blames his tools) I'm not the only gardener here with experience calling your bullshit. Get your facts straight or lurk-n-learn. But trying to blow smoke up our ass will end in your failure as a gardener and as a person in general. :jointsmile:

Frail...? Hardly.

still sounding like a troll rusty

[Rusty Trichome]

jamessr: Your concerns are well founded, but totally misplaced.

Ever heard of trace elements?
"of the seventeen plant-essential elements, eight (iron, manganese, zinc, copper, boron, molybedium, cobbalt and chlorine) are required in small quantities and are thus called trace elements. Of these eight, iron, manganese, zinc, copper and molybdeum are sometimes refered to as heavy metals..."..."yet the term heavy metal does not distinguish between toxic and non-toxic."
Heavy metal tolerance in plants ... - Google Books

Most of us in here are concerned with what goes into their grow. My wife has been on chemo for 7 years now, and I'm dealing with chronic Hep-C. So yes...I do pay attention to what goes into my meds.

But regardless of the hype and nonsense behind the Organic Only cult, there has never been any link to non-organic nutrients being detrimental to your health. Now were we talking about using gibbrelins, auxins, silver
thiosulphate, or any other steroidal/hormonal/toxic heavy metal being used to promote gender-bending and/or plant growth, I'd totally agree. I even stopped using Superthrive because of the secrecy behind the ingredient list. (not to mention it doesn't do enough good, to justify use)

If you are going to claim a product is unhealthful...you damn well better be able to back your claims with data. If your data is valid, it will spread across the web like wildfire, and you'd be deemed a hero. If not, all you are spreading is bullshit, and lord knows there's enough bullshit in these forums to last a lifetime.

seventhchild: Not at all interested in your comments on how I appear. It's simple...if you've got a problem with me, then report me. But it's not something I toss-n-turn all night worrying about. :jointsmile:

Merry Christmas, everyone.

[jamessr]

Rusty and others,

I totally agree with not spreading bullshit. I went to the MSDS that MG company puts out. On this data sheet, they list the toxic heavy metals contained in their products as well as non-toxic heavy metals. Mercury is toxic in any form. Although our agencies here in the states allow this toxic substance higher and higher allowances as time goes on. The higher rate of cancer and other serious health issues arise.

Note this is just one toxic substance mentioned which does not ever leave any organic matter and/or cellular structure, even in humans. It is absorbed and stored and is seriously dangerous.It is known to the state of california as a substance which causes cancer. (by the way the autopsy done on my brother confirmed he had full body cancer, head to toe in all his organs, from what is the underlying question here) The MG msds has other toxic heavy metals listed other than mercury. I am not claiming any hero status nor would I if this was/is the case in any given situation.

I have some compromised immune system condition(s), I can not get even near the stuff without having adverse effects on my health. I would ask of those who use this substance on a regular basis to send their cured usable meds to a reputable lab and have it tested for the toxic heavy metals. Share the results here. That's the best way to show either side the facts.

Research what kind of plant the Chernobyl nuclear melt down used to absorb from the ground the toxins. It was the cannabis plant because how it uptakes toxins and stores them. It is well proven cannabis is a absorber of life's harms.

[Rusty Trichome]

You're right. Living in fear is a good way to protect yourself. Up to a point. :thumbsup:

But you are not going to be able to grow cannabis without some form of nutrients, most of which contain trace elements necessary for plant growth and development. (if not, we add them) Quite a few of us in here are dealing with a compromised immune system, but unless you are drinking the stuff straight or bathing in it, doubtful there will be an issue. (have never heard of one) Did you know there are toxins in organic products, too? fish with mercury, bisphenol-A, (an organic can liner in canned foods) Some animal products might contain trace amounts of harmful contaminants like polybrominated diphenyl ethers, polychlorinated biphenyl and dioxins, How inorganics we consume daily...? like aspartame and other artificial sweetners?

I'm not a doctor, and would never assume to offer medical advise. But, one can go overboard with having an over-abundance of caution. Do you believe that if there has ever been evidence to the contrary we'd hide it from you? Were you talking steroidal or hormonal additives, or silver thilosulphate I'd tend to agree with your caution, since gardeners often have direct exposure, (skin contact) and the ability to overdose thier plants with the stuff, and raising the concentration levels within the plant to potentially toxic levels. (not proven, but I'll avoid smoking hormones, thank-you)

Do you smoke cannabis? Have you had these concerns all along? When purchasing your schwag off the street, did you grill your connect as to it's contents?

Again...sorry about your brother, but his story has no place here, as that's all it is...a story. Not a shread of proof one way or the other. It's like saying my 8 year old second cousin died from cancer because of her mom's new boyfriends second hand smoke. (except for the fact that she had cancer years before her mom met the dickhead)

Might be time to relax, and un-pucker. (nobody lives forever) :jointsmile:

[seventhchild]

And don't go attacking good people who grow great bud like Rusty. .

Attacking? I was defending my posts . dusty said my facts are wrong , i was spreading bullshit , and that i was being anal. I don't give a *uck how long he's been here or how many posts he has or if you think he's one step below GOD a dick is a dick

as a new member you should respect the leaders & long-standing members of this site or go elsewhere...

I only respect those that earn it.I will not be a victim of a trolls ranting and raving and I'm here until I die or get banned .Have a happy New Year

[MrMarijuana12]

man miracle grow is the shit my mom grew her purple kush in miracle grow outside an it grew to be 6 1/2 feet tall an had over a 1 1/2lbs of bomb ass bud on it.

[hillbillyjim]

i used mg potting soil,no fert till flowering, once flowerring began started using mg tomato fert at 25% increased to 50% in two weeks. had 7 plants killed two males remaining 5 are ladies! all grown under 4 4ft.40 watt flourescents,and they are budding like crazy! i wish i had been doing this all my life! this is my 1st crop.:thumbsup:,,ps.there are 4 nightcrawlers in each bucket.