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12-11-2009, 03:42 PM #1
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Miracle grow soil
That is one lol-larious post. Thanks for the laughs.
Originally Posted by skyhigh35
jakester Reviewed by jakester on . Miracle grow soil Alright so I have been really busy working and stuff so I havent had alot of time(or mney) to go to the grow store and get my fox farms ocean forest soil. My partners mom owed us some money so she said that when she went to the hardware store she would get us some soil. I was very clear that I wanted the highest qauility organic potting soil they had. She comes back with some cheap fucking miracle grow pre fertalized shit. I dont want to be rude to her but should i toss it and go get me Rating: 5Think of your buds like chocolate chip cookies: some people like em crunchy and some people like em chewy. Personally, I want them tanned golden brown but not crispy....and no one likes cold raw dough in the middle of their cookie.
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12-11-2009, 03:53 PM #2
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Miracle grow soil
Miracle-Grow potting soil is OK, as stated, add about 30% perlite ... I used the 'organic' MG version, because it seemed to have the least added fertilizers, of their varieties ... I'm not on the 'organic bus', by a long shot ... I am not convinced the plant can tell the difference between nitrogen obtained from minerals, or obtained from rotting materials ... nitrogen is nitrogen, it's an element ... (I think)
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12-11-2009, 05:06 PM #3
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Honestly when I put the MG plants next to the fox farm plants there are only two things I really notice.
1. MG grown plants have GREENER leaves, they are also taller and stretched a little more than the others(Im guessing because of the extra NItrogen in the MG)
2. Fox farms buds Have more visible resin and it almost seemed like they have a little more odor.
Other than that, the plants are identical and all have about the same amount of budsites and are all around the same size and buds look damn near identical(they are all clones of the same strain)
I cant really notice a huge difference and think that all of this bashing on MG soil is unjustified. Cheap...Yes Inorganic...yes , but honestly i cant say that the stuff is bad soil or gives you bad quality product. I doubt that the people making all of these claims ever used the soil.
Thank you RUSTY for coming out with some actual personal experience, other than having all of these people tell me something they heard from somebody over the internet.Whoever created this universe left marijuana as a gift to the earth, im just being grateful. :stoned:
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12-11-2009, 05:11 PM #4
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Miracle grow soil
All I have ever used is MG soil. It works great in my opinion. I still give it a regular feeding of nutrients from SuperNatural. This last grow was 2.5oz per plant dry.
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12-17-2009, 08:30 PM #5
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FACT: I found two 2" x 3" pieces of pressure treated lumber in a bag of MG organic I purchased several months ago. If you want to use a product that has pressure treated lumber in it, then go right ahead.
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12-18-2009, 05:28 AM #6
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Im growing currently in an MG mixture, and havent seen any bad results yet... tho I couldnt speak on the cough/flavor of the final product as I haven't harvested and sampled. I do know that they are growing great, without stretching, and without having to add any nutes at all. I have recently started watering with a flowering nute (higher P and K), but only every other watering - plain water in between.
And about ammonium nitrate... its part of every form of fecal-based fertilizer on the planet. Just because its extremely volatile, doesnt mean its bad for plants... just means it has a highly reactive molecule. The reason why Ammonium Nitrate is volatile is because as it is broken down by heat, it creates nitrogen(nearly inert) and concentrated levels of Oxygen. Oxygen is highly reactive, and explosive, but the roots of a plant need it to survive.
So, not trying to be a douche and dismiss someone but just because it goes boom when concentrated, doesnt mean it isnt useful in plant nutes.
I havent personally seen pressure treated wood in MG, but because I havent seen it, doesnt mean it doesnt happen.... It also means that they can have quality control issues, but doesnt every company occasionally?
That said, time released nutes are tricky to work with, since most people are eager to add nutes as soon as the serrated leaves have popped. No doubt, though, that unless you leach the time released particles out of the soil by natural means, the taste of the final results would be affected (even if minor).
sorry about the rant.:rastasmoke: I'd say tho, that overall MG is good, as long as they arent fed until theyre close to 12/12 light. If they are fed additional nutrients, a buildup can occur and the plants get 'locked out'. Then its more difficult to 'flush' since the time-released nutes arent as readily flushed from the medium.
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12-18-2009, 06:29 AM #7
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Miracle grow soil
Dug a dead shrub out of a planter my wife had outside this past summer. Dropped my seedling in there and keep it watered...3rd week of flower now.
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12-18-2009, 12:16 PM #8
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Miracle grow soil
Every company has quality issues, but the level of quality that they set their bar at is terrible. I have used MG soils the organic and the reg stuff for all my house plants. After transplanting those plants tiny flies were born and took awhile to kill off. I have never had anything like that from any other medium other then Miracle Grow. Anything will work i suppose if given the right attention, I just prefer using stuff like promix or Fox Farm products based on my own experience with them. Most towns have nurseries or Home depot etc that would carry at least Promix or some other Organic effective inexpensive alternative. Or at the very least skip the kind of mg that feeds for three months and you shouldn't have too many issues that can't be fixed.
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12-18-2009, 02:17 PM #9
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If you buy ANY brand of potting soil from a store that stores their bags outside in the rain and elements?...the gnats are gonna lay their eggs in it...especially in the summer.
Ever notice most bags have holes in them?
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12-18-2009, 05:13 PM #10
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Originally Posted by mmjman
I also found a big chunks of wood in the MG as well. Mostly just sticks(some of them quite big though) but roots just grow around them so i didnt think to much of it.Whoever created this universe left marijuana as a gift to the earth, im just being grateful. :stoned:
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