Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhh, bad news guys, both plants were found by some disapproving people and had to be killed.....the Bubblegum was male anyway turns out but my main lady is no more Thanks for all tuning in though, all comments/feedback were much appreciated. Perhaps I'll start another log one of these days.......Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all:bonghit: