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11-11-2009, 08:21 AM #1Senior Member
America is not free.
Originally Posted by Islandborn
The bigger, richer middle-class part is just plain horseshit. I can't speak for France (though I'd assume), but Canada has much less poverty, as I've observed touring the U.S., where basically every major city has some pretty ugly poverty. Non-patriots tend to know that few places in the world is the gap between the tiny wealthy elite and the ever-growing lower-class masses greater than in America.
As for immigrants...a country's reputation doesn't always make it so.
The women part is a matter of opinion, but I personally find the French birds that I saw much easier on the eyes (and less obese in general).
The one point that I'm ASTOUNDED you made, however, was about the food. I've never, ever eaten better than French food, which far outstrips the homogenized swill we have in North America (Canada included).
Look at this, for one...you're defending your country out of patriotic zeal, and I'm advocating a country I was neither born or raised in, nor have any heritage of. One of us might be a little more biased than the other.
And as for your charges of racism...I'd argue in the U.S. it's just as rampant, just more suppressed (except in the south).
And I've never been to Norway, but apparently it's consistently ranked as the world's top country. I'd like to look into that one. The U.N. index has never to my knowledge ranked the U.S. as #1, at least in recent years.
I have nothing against the U.S., I'm just saying there are better countries and people shouldn't be so biased. Oh, but American health care is disgusting, and no one can argue otherwise (except for the wealthy, who can afford the top treatment, the others get left in the dirt, have to pay many times the insurance rates that Canadians do in health taxes, and often get dropped by the companies when they get a major illness. Great).cannabis=freedom Reviewed by cannabis=freedom on . America is not free. AMERICA IS TO BE FREE! (EVERYONE AGREES EXCEPT TALIBAN, KOREA, A FEW OTHERS, AND THE JOKER,) but how can we be free with millions of laws being shoved down our throat by lady liberty's torch, and uncle sam's finger! FREEDOM: exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc. WHAT THE F@#$! IS OUR DICTIONARY WRONG?!?! OMG AMERICA IS NOT FREE?!? DID WEBSTER MAKE A MISPRINT?! no he did not there are 17 definitions of freedom and not one constitutes that you can have laws and Rating: 5
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11-11-2009, 01:22 PM #2Senior Member
America is not free.
Originally Posted by cannabis=freedom
the pizza we had in Germany and France was much better than the ones we had in Italy, too. go figure. :jointsmile: okay new thread idea, things we love about Europe and we'll just let this thread die out.
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11-11-2009, 02:35 PM #3Senior Member
America is not free.
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
oui oui
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11-18-2009, 03:42 AM #4OPSenior Member
America is not free.
lol im not talking about who is stronger guys, I'm talking about being free! In north korea Kim Bong Lee (dictator lol) tells his country they are free and the citizens believe it! They have pulled a blanket over those poor people! if I could put a bullet in his head i would and forget about it with a smile on my face by the time the next blunt comes around; he is a sick and discusting thing (no even considered a human to me because he treats his country like dogs, fenced in and sheltered from the outside world.)
YouTube - Welcome to North Korea by Peter Tetteroo and Raymond Feddema / Documentary Educational Video (sorry if I cant post links, but this is educational)
Also I am a big gun control activist as well! I'm a life member of the NRA! People need to realize the 2nd amendment was put in the constitution to keep the government in line, so they cannot overpower the people! Any politician that wants to take away guns knows this! They want more power and money which can be achieved by un-arming the citizens on AMERICA! All of them know that if they ban guns crime will not cease. think of it this way, drugs are illegal but criminals still get them, if guns were illegal they will still get them! The only people who are getting their guns taken are law-abiding citizens! The government will never take my f#$%ing guns, only from "my cold dead fingers", if they do try to let me tell you this THERE WILL BE ANOTHER CIVIL WAR, and the military will not back the president at that time.
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11-18-2009, 12:39 PM #5Senior Member
America is not free.
Originally Posted by peble
peble, i have a suggestion. start a new thread called the US is free, and continue this line of thought there. its like H4H was saying, a lot of people on here may agree with what you are actually saying but not very many Americans are going to agree with the title of this thread. The point you just made above is a good evidence that we are free, right?
I'm not saying we don't have to fight to stay that way but lets all agree this the US ain't North Korea. We have a rights here given to us by our creator that must be defended, but can be defended.
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11-18-2009, 01:55 PM #6Senior Member
America is not free.
How free are we ?
Let's see. When you can be arrested for INTENT. How free are you ?
That's just thinking. Not a conspiracy that's making plans just thinking about something.
You can have your gun but just don't think about using them.
Oh, they convicted me of not growing. That was not enough. They convicted me of INTENT to sell and that's it. What I never intended to do but is the worst they can put on you. Intent to sell to little kids and that makes you a terrorist too.
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11-19-2009, 12:24 AM #7Senior Member
America is not free.
^ I agree with you about "intent" laws, they are total bullshit. it would be like charging with someone with "intent to commit armed robbery" just because they own a gun. only with cannabis laws do they get away with that kind of logic. :wtf:
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12-05-2009, 01:55 AM #8Senior Member
America is not free.
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
gotta add
And because when the shit hits the fan its the US Marines that lead the way
again gotta add, my flags are their on the corner because I am proud not because I cant figure out how to change it.the cure for cancer is real
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw
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12-05-2009, 02:21 AM #9Senior Member
America is not free.
" freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose " - Kris Kristofferson, West Point grad., helicopter gunship pilot, Vietnam ...
don't know about some of you, but I feel pretty free ... I do pretty much as I please, take care of myself, best I can ... ever wonder what's the most important thing you realize, as you get old ?, that all your bitching and whining, over the years, only contributed to your high blood pressure, and not much else ...
relax, take life for what it is, there is really very little you can do to change it ... you live for awhile, then the really serious shit hits the fan, worry about that, instead ... :smokin:
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12-07-2009, 12:11 PM #10Junior Member
America is not free.
As an Australian. I cant really comment on America. I dont really want to comment at all.
All i really want to say is:
If someone is prepared to stand up, take control, be prepared for a bloody hard fight and most of all, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. They would have my vote.
Complaining on a forum of how we arent free is B/S...remember you are free to run for Presidency / Prime Minister if you do really want to make a change.
Maybe run for Member of Parliament for your area. That vote is down to the Local People and they will decide upon what you tell them if your who they want.
Ill put my hand up now. I have a perfect solution. Instead of working for money to get what you need. How about cutting a step out and working for what you need? If you have a farm of corn,i will help you sow the seeds. We all eat corn. If i have cattle,help me milk them,we will all have milk.
Its the simple,help yourself to help others. If you can only help yourself than it must not be worth doing.
If 10 people help you,it takes a 10th of the time. Sooner or later we all have so much time,well be looking to help each other. As it is now. People have no time on their hands so pretty much everyone cops an F YOU! That continues in a big loop til everyones rooting each other...pretty much where we are now.
My bottom line is. Unless you are pro actively doing something to change this,you cant exactly complain. And complaining only makes things worse...
Start looking for change and actually looking. Scratch the surface and start to dig...it goes so deep.
I hope to see you on the other side
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