great ideas, I will be doing the clones but never thought about gettin em both? perhaps ill try both but for sure clones! Any Ideas on some good or very good clones out there? Naturally not a real difficult plant. Im a big time into growing succulants and cacti, but its easy to raise em they require almost nothing.but Ive been around other plants and currently also raise pitcher plants, a carnivourous breed of plants,the ones i have are not begginer plants but are not as difficult as bud. Thanks for any suggestion on clones.