WTF is this all about? Is it a mistake or a mystery

[seldomBLUE]

These are 2 diff plants, 2 picts each. They are from the same Blueberry Tundra seeds i accidentally breaded (Blueberry Kush/Matanuska Tundra). As you can see they are mad and making a fist. No purpling of stems so i don't think it's a K problem but i may be wrong. Could this be a bad water issue or something more specific. These are the ones that had the 5.8pH that I flushed 4 days ago. I gave them a shot of floraNova yesterday. My MT has been on the same routine since i set them to flower. Could this be a strain issue and that's just how the damn thing grows? Anything is possible so i'm asking if any one knows this condition. If so, how do i correct it within the final 5 weeks of flower?

seldomBLUE Reviewed by seldomBLUE on 10-18-2009. WTF is this all about? Is it a mistake or a mystery These are 2 diff plants, 2 picts each. They are from the same Blueberry Tundra seeds i accidentally breaded (Blueberry Kush/Matanuska Tundra). As you can see they are mad and making a fist. No purpling of stems so i don't think it's a K problem but i may be wrong. Could this be a bad water issue or something more specific. These are the ones that had the 5.8pH that I flushed 4 days ago. I gave them a shot of floraNova yesterday. My MT has been on the same routine since i set them to flower. Rating: 5

[irydyum]

How long ago did you cut out all the Nitrogen?

[FreeDaHerb]

Almost like they are being subjected to light pollution during the flowering cycle, that's what leaves look like when you reveg a flowering plant. Another possibility is overfertilization with N during flowering, over watering, OR very low light levels or maybe a combo of the above.

[JackdaWack]

other then the shape of the leaves, the color looks healthy

[the image reaper]

what kinda temps ya running at canopy height ?

[Rusty Trichome]

Filling out the troubleshooting for would be best, but looks like a ph issue. Suggested range for peat-based potting mixes is between 6.3 and 6.8 ph.

What feeding schedule are you using? Do you stick to it?

[seldomBLUE]

Unfortunately it's not just the canopy. This is how it looks down to the pot. They have been in flower for 7 weeks as of yesterday (10/17), i repotted 2 weeks b4 setting to flower, fed HastaGrow 6-12-6 the day i put then to flower. I was thinking pH, i flushed last week and it came out 5.8, got it back to 6.2, fed FlorsNove bloom at 6.5; there is no change in leaf color, stems are a little hard but not purple, just knuckling leaves that are mainly at the bud sites. I have them on the same routine as my MT which also had bad pH. I'm just wondering if it's one of those hard to grow plants. Maybe i crossed a (MT) cat with a (BK) dog and the babies came out mearking. My MT is doing fine.Temp guage about 6" below tops, day tempts have been as high as 103 in the dark within the last 5 weeks but air flow was steady. Last 2 weeks at +/-82 days, +/-81 with lights, 400w HPS about 2' above and two 4" 40 watt daylight delux floros on the floor. It's only these plants (Blueberry Tundra; my own strain) that look like this.

[Rusty Trichome]

Curious...what specific comments are you calling "stupid comments"?

Again...filling out the troubleshooting form is the best way to a definative diagnosis. Or, you can keep offering these little tiny bits of info, till they're ready for harvest. :thumbsup:

Growing in the desert I know exactly what heat stress looks like, and that's not it. With heat stress, the leaves thicken and raise to the light.

Old leaves are old news. Your ph is way too low for a peat-based grow, and the affected leaves will not recover their vigor or shape. Correct your ph, and new growth should be fine. only other thing I can think of is to lower the lights if possible. 2 feet from a 400w is pushing the outer edges of it's effective range.

[stinkyattic]

Few things:
Excess N
Light leaks
Too small a pot for that plant
Excess Mg
All those can cause that weird clawing. Anecdotally, blueberry derivatives are said to do it quite easily.

You need a gallon of soil per foot of plant.
No N past week 2 of flower, if even that.
Go in at 'night' and look for leaks.

The claws won't heal, but overall plant health can be stabilized by fixing the issue(s), and you can apply the lesson next round.

[Rusty Trichome]

So stinky, are you just re-itterating that which we already mentioned? Kinda surprised you failed to mention the ph issue in your recap. Thanks for joining-in though.