yes,i believe they always test for the pain meds so substitution is not an option.appreciate all the feedback.will post what all i took/did to prepare and my results when i get them(hopefully same day).but knowing the va they probably wont bother telling me either way...ill find out for sure when i call in my refills in a few weeks.screw em...i can always find a big sack of sumthin to ease the pain:smokin: