saucee last grow the plants grew strong and filled out nice..but they turned males..so i ordered fem seeds to try to get an advantage ... i was running 8 23 watt cfls on three plants...now i have 16 lights same watts different spectrums on fourplants so im hoping for some thick nugs...ive looked at almost every cfl grow on the web and it can be done just need a ton of cfls...well c