Thank you Imagine reaper,

I have already read that link before I even posted in this room, I believe I got the link from either reading one of your posts or a post from someone else. It has been already helpful and thanks for posting it again. All information is welcome and appreciated:thumbsup:.

Funny you mention Temperature being a big factor. I have been Experimenting with my Temps for 3 days now, I was keeping things between 78 and 80 (F) Degrees. I raised the Temperature in the Bubble Cloner to 88 - 90 degrees (F), much higher than Recomended and I have 3 sprouts today. I may not be an expert grower but I have been Germinating bag seed for over a decade just to see if I could. This is the first time ever that I needed temps this high. Hopefully this will work because Sandpaper is a LAST RESORT for me.

Other things I looked into were how did these particular seeds get such a thick shell. I went over Grow logs from when I produced the Seeds. I used well over the Recommended amount of Molasses in the last 2/3rds of flowering. Still researching the effects of Molasses on seed production. But it is something I feel need to be investigated. Who knows, maybe the thicker seeds are better if it turns out that raising temps solves the problem. It may actually prevent other problems. Being new to Seed production, this gives me a facinating area to investigate.

I like the Bubble Cloner with an Aquarium Heater for germinating seeds because I have so much control over the Temperature. I like having control over environments, the more control, the better your potential results.

I am still going to explore results with sandpapering using freedaherbs method with the 78-80 (f) temps. Just to see if it works. Knowing how to use that method may come in handy in the future. I have more seeds saved than I need anyways. Might as well use them for educational purposes.