Waiting + Dilute or Substitution

[birdman02]

Hi Everyone,
This is my first post but I have been lurking here for the past few weeks. I am a healthcare employee, and have recently been offered a position at a hospital about 45 min closer to my home. I recieved the call on September 27 and have not smoked since then. I am 6'5 235lbs and fairly active as I am performing procedures on patients all day. I smoked every night when I got home from work and went through about a 1/4 every two weeks. Quality wasnt very high, just regs. My job interview is on October 12 so I am guessing at the very latest I can push a drug screen back to October 19. I already pushed the interview back two weeks so I cant keep asking for more time.
I went and purchased some One Step drug tests and took one tonight when I got home and failed. No line showed at all. I didnt pee for about 10 hours prior though as I dont really get a break at work. I am guessing I only have about 5-12 more days to be clean before I am asked to go for the urine test. I am not sure if they will be watching or not, so I am nervous about bringing in a substitute sample, especially after hearing some people failed with quickfix. I really cannot screw this up as I am a friend of the person who requested I go work there. The medical community is small and everyone knows everyone. I am close to turning the job down but it is really going to help with my gas and mileage costs, not to mention its an increase in pay of 10k a year.
If you were in my predicament what would you do? Would you just keep abstaining and then dilute, or would you take the risk that they may want to do a physical when they perform the test along with the required fingerprinting and bring in a substitute. I know it has been asked a 100 times here and it has been beaten to death. I figured I can post and hopefully someone knowledgable can lead me to the correct choice. If you do say to substitute should I go with the quickfix (if so which batch) or the powdered urine that is under the sticky on this forum. Thanks for all of your help in advance, keep up the good work.

birdman02 Reviewed by birdman02 on 10-09-2009. Waiting + Dilute or Substitution Hi Everyone, This is my first post but I have been lurking here for the past few weeks. I am a healthcare employee, and have recently been offered a position at a hospital about 45 min closer to my home. I recieved the call on September 27 and have not smoked since then. I am 6'5 235lbs and fairly active as I am performing procedures on patients all day. I smoked every night when I got home from work and went through about a 1/4 every two weeks. Quality wasnt very high, just regs. My Rating: 5

[killerweed420]

I would doubt that dillution is going to work for you but don't give up.
Eat a high fiber diet with metamucil up to 3 days before the UA then switch to a high fat red meat diet. Continue to home test yourself every couple of days to see how you're doing.
And have a backup plan. Synthetic Urine. QuickFix still works fine. You won't be observed. So pickup a bottle and practice with it to keep the temp right.
So if you're not clean by UA time just sub.
If you do get clean still use some dillution the morning of the UA to give yourself a little added insurance.

[birdman02]

Hi,
Thanks for your reply. I went ahead and purchased some quickfix with overnight shipping. I couldnt find the 3oz bottle anywhere so I purchased the 2oz, I hope that will be enough for the test. I am going to use the sub, but now am a little nervous if once I come out she asks for more urine. If she does what should I do then. Thanks

[Burnt Toast]

I went ahead and purchased some quickfix with overnight shipping. I couldnt find the 3oz bottle anywhere so I purchased the 2oz, I hope that will be enough for the test. I am going to use the sub, but now am a little nervous if once I come out she asks for more urine. If she does what should I do then.

For starters, dont be nervous at all. You keep a firm stance and inform the collector thats all the sample you were able to void.

2 ounces is enough for any U/A. Some collectors may ask for more, only to dump the excess after splitting/tranferring into vials for processing. But if 2 oz is all the donor can submit, the collector has to accept it.

[birdman02]

If I crotch it by my taint should i still use the heating pad?

[killerweed420]

Usually you don't need the heating pad. Just nuke it for 10 seconds and stick it in your crotch. Check it a hlaf hour or so while you're practicing to see how its doing. You can reheat QF multiple times without hurting it.

[birdman02]

Thank you for the replies. I am really nervous but feel alot better with the advice you have given. I will practice once I recieve it. Thanks again

[birdman02]

Just for everyones information, Day 16 home test still positive, glad the quickfix 5.7 is arriving tomorrow.

[birdman02]

Just wanted to drop an update. I went for my interview and everything went well. I was told it will be over a week till I find out and if I get offered the position, the drug test will take place on October 26th. I hope by then I will be able to pee clean, let me know what you think. It will be 29 days on that date since the last time I smoked. I tested positive last night, received my quick fix 5.7 today in the mail as a backup. I have three at home tests left, I will check again on day 22 and post my results, than again on the 25th if I end up getting the job. Hopefully this will help some people the ballpark figure of how long it actually takes for someone around my size to have clean urine specimens. Thanks again and talk to you all soon.

[cdk420]

I was just in a similar situation. I was clean for 16 days and realized i would not have more than 18 days from my last smoke session to stay clean, the hiring process moved faster than expected. i still failed a home test at day 15 (healthy 5'9 165lb at the gym at least 4 days a week) still failing after 15 days and drug screen on day 18, i am subbing no matter what! I got a friend going to donate on day of test, i practiced walking with 3oz bottle of water in the taint with a hand warmer, held a temp of 99 -100 for 2 hours cositently after microwave for 10 seconds. i was checking temp with digital thermometer I am sold on subbing, as i cant risk dilution failing a home test so close to the real test.

If you only have 29 days dont risk it, unless you pee first pee of morning clean for 2 days in a row, (doubtfull)

Just sub and start smoking again...

My only concern is the bottle can make a splashing noise in your pants when walking if not carefull. I am using a small bottle similar to travel shampoo.