nice well i have got my self just a couple of loowriders just to see how they turn out got a bit of a variation all in all i wana grow about 10 maybe 15 i have got my self some 200w enviorolite bulbs so im guessing they should do the trick ni mean ive read up on them and they seem preety easy to grow just 20 hours of light and the basic feed of 2 times a day