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    #11
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    aero/fog LED grow table

    Looks awesome OldMac! Clone tray or SOG? If SOG, how long will u veg? I've never seen so many net pots in 1 place! lol
    Also, can you elaborate a bit more on the dry fog? I'm intrigued.

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    #12
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    aero/fog LED grow table

    Hello Joefarmer,

    This is a SOG setup, and the trays are going to be used for flowering only. What veg times they get, they get in the clonner. Depending on strain, they will be in the clonner abt a week from showing roots. In the clonner they are just in the neoprene collars, transplant consists of putting collars into the net pots so they can't stay too long or the roots become a pain to get into the net pots.

    I have built smaller setups that grow from cutting to finish in the same tray, which is fine for hobbyists' or personal grows, but to do production runs it is more efficent to clone cuttings seperately.

    I use the term "dry fog" for the ultrasonic fogger because that's how it feels. You can put your hand in front of the output and your hand stays dry because the fog particules are so small. It has been shown that particules 5 microns or less are directly available to the roots' pores. By contrast if you put your hand near one of the mister nozzles it will feel and be wet, since the majority of it's fog particles are larger then 5 micron. This is really the difference between fogponics and aeroponics and why I consider this an aero/fog unit.

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    #13
    Senior Member

    aero/fog LED grow table

    Just for DreadedHermie, to drool over. Are you sure that was just drool?

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    #14
    Senior Member

    aero/fog LED grow table

    Very cool popsâ?¦very cool. Are me gonna see it in action?

    Sonnyboy

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    #15
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    aero/fog LED grow table

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubberbubbler
    thanks oldmac for replying with the whole name of the lamps. and headshake I did read the post quit looking for something to jump at somebody it was a simple question. thanks. I am not trying to get anybody going just tired of when I ask a question someone is their to smear it in your face
    i never needlessly smear anyone's face in anything. nor did i smear yours. it was said in jest. so don't get pissy with me because you "read" the post but missed pertinent information. i would think the words "light rail" would have given it away.

    i figure that once you are around for more than 18 posts you will figure out how the boards run. it's a tight knit family around here. don't take everything personally.

    as far as people smearing your for asking questions, what is the common denominator? again, just trying to solve your questions.

    like old mac said, it's all good! i've got no need to smear anyone. if you take time to read my posts you will see the majority of them are me trying to help others. same way that i helped you. you just didn't like the wording of the answer you got. to avoid this in the future perhaps searching for the answers oneself would alleviate this?

    Quote Originally Posted by oldmac
    No problem Rubberbubbler.

    In Headshake's defense I'd like to mention that he was just probably watching my back; I've had a few recent postings' that got ignored or miss read and I get really annoyed at the lack of reading comprehension sometimes.

    "it's all good" as 'shake would say.
    :thumbsup:
    i always got your back old mac! just get tired of answering questions that have been answered or due to lack of paid attention. i suppose it could always be an honest mistake. either way, the answer was in the post. and a simple google search could have turned up what he was looking for. and it would have probably taken less keystrokes than it did to post the question.

    i guess keeping my mouth shut is not one of my virtues, but perhaps something i should learn.

    can't wait to see the plans you've worked up. i mean after all, i've been drooling over it with DH!

    does it require any particular nutes or any special steps or anything?


    -shake

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    #16
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    aero/fog LED grow table

    Quote Originally Posted by headshake
    i never needlessly smear anyone's face in anything. nor did i smear yours. it was said in jest. so don't get pissy with me because you "read" the post but missed pertinent information. i would think the words "light rail" would have given it away.

    i figure that once you are around for more than 18 posts you will figure out how the boards run. it's a tight knit family around here. don't take everything personally.

    as far as people smearing your for asking questions, what is the common denominator? again, just trying to solve your questions.

    like old mac said, it's all good! i've got no need to smear anyone. if you take time to read my posts you will see the majority of them are me trying to help others. same way that i helped you. you just didn't like the wording of the answer you got. to avoid this in the future perhaps searching for the answers oneself would alleviate this?



    i always got your back old mac! just get tired of answering questions that have been answered or due to lack of paid attention. i suppose it could always be an honest mistake. either way, the answer was in the post. and a simple google search could have turned up what he was looking for. and it would have probably taken less keystrokes than it did to post the question.

    i guess keeping my mouth shut is not one of my virtues, but perhaps something i should learn.

    can't wait to see the plans you've worked up. i mean after all, i've been drooling over it with DH!

    does it require any particular nutes or any special steps or anything?


    -shake

    I was just asking about the light. Like I said I was not trying to get anyone pissy and yes it was the wording you used and your right I should not take things so personal but it is kind of hard not to when someone makes you fell dumb. anyway I am just trying to be part of this wonderfull cannabis fourm and try to learn and or help if I can
    http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...unk-train.html

    Fortunate to be born on 420 :stoned:

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    #17
    Senior Member

    aero/fog LED grow table

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubberbubbler
    I was just asking about the light. Like I said I was not trying to get anyone pissy and yes it was the wording you used and your right I should not take things so personal but it is kind of hard not to when someone makes you fell dumb. anyway I am just trying to be part of this wonderfull cannabis fourm and try to learn and or help if I can
    no worries. i've been there. and i assure you that i never meant to make you feel dumb. i would never intentionally do that to anyone, unless it was warranted. it was obviously not in this case. stick around, we always need good people around here!


    -shake

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    #18
    Senior Member

    aero/fog LED grow table

    I don't know if anyone else looked into a T1-ProBloom, but they are $1395 each.......jesus christo man, that's a lot of moola for lights.

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    #19
    Senior Member

    aero/fog LED grow table

    ForgetClassC,
    Oldmac has two prototypes and I have one of their production units.

    They are a bit of $$$ but work as advertized. They should last 7 years or so and still be on specs and uses about half of my equivilent HPS rig's power to get the same results. The output is so cool I can grow up to 6" or so from the bottom of the lamp (at which point light intensity becomes an issue instead of heat.) I'm on my second TI Probloom powered grow and loving it.

    I'll leave oldmac to speak for himself, but I'm sure it will be positive.

    M.P.

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    #20
    Senior Member

    aero/fog LED grow table

    Quote Originally Posted by oldmac
    Hello Joefarmer,

    This is a SOG setup, and the trays are going to be used for flowering only. What veg times they get, they get in the clonner. Depending on strain, they will be in the clonner abt a week from showing roots. In the clonner they are just in the neoprene collars, transplant consists of putting collars into the net pots so they can't stay too long or the roots become a pain to get into the net pots.

    I have built smaller setups that grow from cutting to finish in the same tray, which is fine for hobbyists' or personal grows, but to do production runs it is more efficent to clone cuttings seperately.

    I use the term "dry fog" for the ultrasonic fogger because that's how it feels. You can put your hand in front of the output and your hand stays dry because the fog particules are so small. It has been shown that particules 5 microns or less are directly available to the roots' pores. By contrast if you put your hand near one of the mister nozzles it will feel and be wet, since the majority of it's fog particles are larger then 5 micron. This is really the difference between fogponics and aeroponics and why I consider this an aero/fog unit.
    thx OM, will u use clay pellets in the netpots? Or will they be naked. I dream of someday not having to use cubes or pellets.

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