^ yeah, no shite, Barry is like a deer in the headlights on this and what is really pissing me off is all this spin about how long Bush took to come up with a new strategy for Iraq after his first couple failed. Yes, that is true but how many soldiers died during that period of time? How many died as Shrub sat on his ass in Crawford all summer? for Barry to say well they did it too is derelect of duty at best.

I say put up or shut up. Quit jerking around the American people and come clean. Are we going to go all out towards counter insurgency as the Generals on the ground have explained very well needs to happen, do we commit to sending the resources to arm them and the Afgan defense forces, to go full on nation building and be honest about it and how much its going to cost or do have a president who continues do look like he's just lost? It is time to fish or cut bait. Win the war correctly as needed by the soldiers on the ground or get them the fuck out now! but of course that could never happen in the new world order. :wtf: