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    #11
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    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Islandborn

    Will cold virus's continue to mutate until they form some unstoppable strain in say 1000 years?
    The common cold virus (rhinovirus) has been around for centuries. It's a very minor virus which mainly effects the upper respiratory system- runny/stuffed nose, headache, minimally-productive cough; viruses mutate each season, and each virus is rather predictable, with a few exceptions. It's highly unlikely that rhinovirus will turn into a massive strain that wipes out a large population. Developing bronchitis or moderate dehydration from rhinovirus is pretty much the most it'll do to you, MAYBE make you more susceptible to bacterial infections, but that's a stretch.

    Most of the deaths from the influenza virus are complications triggered by secondary infections, such as developing pneumonia, high prolonged fever, or dehydration- things that people can get without having the flu.

    From a microbiological standpoint of this flu craze, it's very disheartening to see so many physicians automatically prescribing antibiotics to patients who test positive for Flu A/B or H1N1. Most feel the need to in order to cover their bases, or to calm the parents' fears, but it's completely and utterly unnecessary unless the patient actually HAS an active bacterial infection.

    Repeated exposure to antibiotics, especially the Penicillin and Vancomycin families are what's triggering the rise of MRSA and VRE infections. I could rant all day about this, but I'll leave it for another day, another thread.

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    #12
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    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    Leonard Horowitz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    ^ Sounds like the guy's behind a lot of conspiracy theories and not just this. I agree that the government is trying to force an unnecessary vaccine on many people who absolutely have no need for it and risk any potential side effects for no reason, but this isn't some drug that is going to wipe out half the world.

    People just need to stop worrying about H1N1, it's far less serious than the normal flu and Cannabis smokers have the added protection of the fact that Cannabis slows down the immune system, which stops the virus sending your body's immune system into overdrive, which can be potentially fatal.

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    #13
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    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    Thank you Islandborn for the kind words

    ^^ What Purple Banana said

    Just to add something on HIV/AIDS - I doubt that it would mutate to an airborne variant (thankfully!).

    The thing to realise in the differences between HIV and for example Influenza/Flu is that influenza is a respiratory virus, it's droplet spread and it invades the cells lining the air ways - nose, trachea and sinuses while HIV does not target those.

    It would take fundamental "redesign" of the virus for that to happen - HIV targets immune cells in the linings of the membranes and although it could target these cells in the nasal passages too - BUT they are far fewer in number than the regular cells which line the airways - also the amount of virus needed to lead to infection is quite large.

    You would just about drown from the amount of fluid entering the airways before getting HIV this way. The virus also does not occur in secreations from the respiratory tract so you can't sneeze out HIV, it is secreated into saliva but you need a large amount to transmit it via kissing (having wounds in the mouth or inflammation reduces this amount). Someone with a high viral load (the amount of virus in your body) could maybe spit on a fresh would and possibly transmit HIV that way but that hasn't been documented yet.

    HIV doesn't have any insect vector transmission as the inoculum is too small and conditions in vectors like a mosquito are HIV unfriendly. HIV can't survive for more than a few minutes outside the human body.

    So it wouldn't be impossible but very very unlikely.

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    #14
    Senior Member

    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Delta9 UK
    Thank you Islandborn for the kind words

    ^^ What Purple Banana said

    Just to add something on HIV/AIDS - I doubt that it would mutate to an airborne variant (thankfully!).

    The thing to realise in the differences between HIV and for example Influenza/Flu is that influenza is a respiratory virus, it's droplet spread and it invades the cells lining the air ways - nose, trachea and sinuses while HIV does not target those.

    It would take fundamental "redesign" of the virus for that to happen - HIV targets immune cells in the linings of the membranes and although it could target these cells in the nasal passages too - BUT they are far fewer in number than the regular cells which line the airways - also the amount of virus needed to lead to infection is quite large.

    You would just about drown from the amount of fluid entering the airways before getting HIV this way. The virus also does not occur in secreations from the respiratory tract so you can't sneeze out HIV, it is secreated into saliva but you need a large amount to transmit it via kissing (having wounds in the mouth or inflammation reduces this amount). Someone with a high viral load (the amount of virus in your body) could maybe spit on a fresh would and possibly transmit HIV that way but that hasn't been documented yet.

    HIV doesn't have any insect vector transmission as the inoculum is too small and conditions in vectors like a mosquito are HIV unfriendly. HIV can't survive for more than a few minutes outside the human body.

    So it wouldn't be impossible but very very unlikely.
    Thanks for all the info...........you had to have been in school forever huh? What a fascinating and scary line of study and work. Thanks for ya'lls work, I sure as hell couldn't do it.

    Someone said they were forced to get an H1N1 nasal shot? Even if you work in a hospital, there has got to be someone that begs to differ with that. OuR pediatrician said not to even worry about Swine Flu (or as it originated....Mexican Pig Flu)

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    #15
    Junior Member

    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Buds 4 Life
    This was sent to us by a good friend & we felt compelled to pass it on,
    especially after we saw that the company making the vacine is seeking protection against prosecution for side effects!!!

    If they have this kind of control, it's no wonder we are having such a hard time
    getting pot legalized!!

    You can read the report below or go to youtube for a 5 part video

    YouTube - Dr. Leo Horowitz on Alex Jones Tv 1/5:Horowitz Takes on The Eugenisist & Their Biotechnology"Trust"
    YouTube - Dr. Leo Horowitz on Alex Jones Tv 2/5:Horowitz Takes on The Eugenisist & Their Biotechnology"Trust"
    YouTube - Dr. Leo Horowitz on Alex Jones Tv 3/5:Horowitz Takes on The Eugenisist & Their Biotechnology"Trust"
    YouTube - Dr. Leo Horowitz on Alex Jones Tv 4/5:Horowitz Takes on The Eugenisist & Their Biotechnology"Trust"
    YouTube - Dr. Leo Horowitz on Alex Jones Tv 5/5:Horowitz Takes on The Eugenisist & Their Biotechnology"Trust"

    Buds4Life
    D & L

    BREAKING NEWS!

    Release: No. H1N1-15
    Date Mailed: Sept. 15, 2009
    For Immediate Release
    Contact: Rob Potter--(959) 715-1520 or 310-877-5002
    WARNING: Drug Cartel Exposed Creating, Releasing, Injecting, Infecting and
    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic H1N1/H5N1 Viruses and Vaccines

    Los Angeles, CA--World leading drug-industry investigators have uncovered
    stunning documents proving an international drug ring, operating from New York
    City, is behind the H1N1 swine flu fright and vaccination preparations.

    Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz, America's leading consumer health expert, and Sherri
    Kane, an investigative journalist, have released shocking proof in legal
    affidavits that leaders of a private global biotechnology "trust" are behind
    everything you ever heard about pandemic flu, including its origin and alleged
    prevention via vaccinations. Their documents, being sent by attorneys to the FBI
    this week, evidence powerful industrialists are operating a crime ring within
    the "Partnership for New York City" (PNYC), and are behind the pandemic's
    creation, media persuasions, vaccination preparations, and health official
    promotions seen everywhere from supermarkets to health clinics.

    "David Rockefeller's trust, that engages several powerful partners on Wall
    Street, including media moguls Ruppert Murdock, Morton Zuckerman, Thomas Glocer,
    and former Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of New
    York, Jerry Speyer, are implicated in advancing global genocide," Dr. Horowitz
    wrote to FBI directors.

    "This 'partnership' controls biotechnology research and development globally.
    Health commerce internationally is also controlled virtually entirely by this
    trust that exercises near complete control over mainstream media to
    promote/propagandize its products and services for the drug cartel's organized
    crime. This trust, in essence, makes or breaks medical and natural healing
    markets, primarily through the mass media companies and propaganda it wields for
    social engineering and market building," Dr. Horowitz wrote.

    Among the most stunning revelations from the Horowitz-Kane research are those
    linking Larry Silverstein of Silverstein Properties, Inc., and the 9-11
    terrorist attacks, to the drug cartel's geopolitical, economic, and population
    reduction activities. Mr. Silverstein, leaser of the World Trade Center who
    authorized to have Building-7 "pulled," meaning detonated, is a chief suspect in
    the "9-11 truth" investigation. Silverstein is currently landlord and co-partner
    in the biotechnology trust founded by David Rockefeller and implicated by these
    new discoveries.

    "If these people can get away with killing more than 3,000 people in 8 seconds
    on 9-11, they are completely capable of murdering millions, even billions, of
    people worldwide this flu season," Dr. Horowitz commented. "I pray these
    revelations will save millions of lives and help activists call upon President
    Barack Obama to demand legitimate inquiries into these genocidal atrocities."

    Given the unprecedented nature and urgency of these findings, Dr. Horowitz has
    posted his affidavit for public review on FLUscam.com, praying other activist
    will spread the information in order to prompt governments worldwide to cease
    mass vaccination preparations to avoid becoming accessories to the crime of
    genocide.

    "The last time I contacted the FBI I warned them about the impending anthrax
    attacks one week before the first mailings were announced in the press," Dr.
    Horowitz recalled. "It took them 6 months to respond. When they did, they made
    me a suspect in the mailings. This time I am warning the Justice Department a
    month before the deadliest genocide in history. I'm praying they'll take kindly
    to my appeal for a PNYC investigation, and Court-ordered injunction, to stop the
    vaccinations for public protection."

    -End-
    Tell me something I don't already know. Where have you been? I have known about vaccines for over a decade! Yes the vaccines are totally geared toward viral contamination and population control. My wife's doctor told her "More people are getting sick from getting the H1N1 vaccine that people who are not getting the vaccine." There can be as many as 40 viral contaminants per vaccine including CANCER!

    But Thank you for telling people, although you can tell 200 people and you are lucky if even one person actually believes you, and does not think you are delusional or paranoid or a conspiracy theorist.

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    #16
    Senior Member

    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by growrilla
    Tell me something I don't already know. Where have you been? I have known about vaccines for over a decade! Yes the vaccines are totally geared toward viral contamination and population control. My wife's doctor told her "More people are getting sick from getting the H1N1 vaccine that people who are not getting the vaccine." There can be as many as 40 viral contaminants per vaccine including CANCER!

    But Thank you for telling people, although you can tell 200 people and you are lucky if even one person actually believes you, and does not think you are delusional or paranoid or a conspiracy theorist.
    Count me in with the group that thinks anyone who believes this crap is delusional/paranoid/ a conspiracy theorist, not to mention extremely gullible.
    An armed society is a polite society.:rambo:

    Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.- Benjamin Franklin, 1759.:wtf:

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    #17
    Senior Member

    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    I know this threads a tiny bit old, but I just wanted to add here that 6 people have died from the H1N1 vaccination so far. And that's not even proven, they probably could have died anyway, but we don't know. But 6 people have died shortly after getting the vaccine.
    6567 people have died from the actual H1N1 virus. So all you conspiracy theorists fail on this one.
    Unless you then conclude that the virus was manufactured by scaly men. Then you probably need to seek help for paranoid schizophrenia.

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    #18
    Junior Member

    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by luciddreamer
    I know this threads a tiny bit old, but I just wanted to add here that 6 people have died from the H1N1 vaccination so far. And that's not even proven, they probably could have died anyway, but we don't know. But 6 people have died shortly after getting the vaccine.
    6567 people have died from the actual H1N1 virus. So all you conspiracy theorists fail on this one.
    Unless you then conclude that the virus was manufactured by scaly men. Then you probably need to seek help for paranoid schizophrenia.
    just a cple words to remember "dick cheney":stoned:

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    #19
    Junior Member

    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Buds 4 Life
    This was sent to us by a good friend & we felt compelled to pass it on,
    especially after we saw that the company making the vacine is seeking protection against prosecution for side effects!!!

    If they have this kind of control, it's no wonder we are having such a hard time
    getting pot legalized!!
    No you and those like you are the reason "we" are having such a hard time getting pot and other alcohol-alternatives decriminalized/legalized.

    This is the biggest load of shit i've ever heard seen or read to myself... and i love a good conspiracy theory. But this is shit.

    First off, every company making anything seeks protection against prosecution for side effects, and most of them get it, as long as it's listed. I don't agree with it, but this is common place and not so Ominous.

    The alcohol industry now, that's why you can't get pot legalized, they do not want any competition. The politicians that pushed to get cocaine included in the Narcotics act, for example were heavily funded by the supporters of alcohol business.

    I hate capitalism as much as the next person, but my only conspiracies are the ones that make logical sense. Capitalism for example operates as a pyramid scheme... also, capitalism is designed to increase profits, which means lower wages, which is... Wealth Redistribution, because capitol is not just currency, it's also means of production, labor, etc. capitalism is designed to take the working class's capitol "labor" and turn it into currency for the upper class. However, the goal to profit... will keep companies from trying to "depopulate" the world... n the governments have no control... big brother is the corporations, you are correct there... but no way in hell are they gonna kill customer's when they could sell them their next vaccine. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't... it is purely for profit.... not depopulation.

    don't spout crap, you make the rest of the movement for personal freedom look like idiots.

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    #20
    Senior Member

    Depopulating Planet with Pandemic Beware of the Flu Vacine!!!

    I say man up and just get the flu, i did.
    hurrr hurrr hurrrr..

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