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09-17-2009, 12:33 PM #13Senior Member
you can't say that!
Originally Posted by cptcannabis
you make a really good point that both parties "merely disagree on points about how they're going to rob us of our freedom." i absolutely agree with that.
there was a thread started by bong30 that i thought was interesting that talks about how we need to see politics as a 360 degree circle, as apposed to a 180 degree arc that we normally use to analyse politics. so that yes there is the left or liberals and there is the right or conservative (and they obviously do hate each other with a passion) but even more important is the other dimension. libertarian vs. statist. or as some of like to call them the nanny statist.
libertarians, by nature, believe in themselves and want the "gov't" to just go away in general where as the [nanny] statist want a big gov't to run their lives for them. So, if you look at it from a 360 degree view you can see that there are liberal and conservative libertarians and liberal and conservative statist.
the problem that we have now is that [nanny] statist are voting in more and more gov't controll across the liberal and conservative spectrum, just as the gov't wants. this is the real problem we are facing, i think. too many people want a big centralized gov't that they think will solve all their problems and and hand full of crooked politicians are happy to give them the illusion of that as they try to take more and more of our god given rights away.[align=center]:s4:
bring \'em all home.
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