Hello scrocks,

I have used LEDs for a couple of years now, one of the biggest problems are the exagerated claims of most LED sellers. While the UFO style LEDs are getting cheaper they really don't come close to the claims they make and many people get real disappointed in them real fast. Plus they are real crap chinese mfg.

Even good LED lights, like Procyon and TI Pro-Blooms, lack the penatration of HID lights. Like ImageReaper pointed out, great results if you grow SOG (2' or less) but you'll never do a 4' plant without resorting to side lighting.