420NLguy, the plants didn't look bad before actually. you still need more light though. a lot more light! they are very spindly and thin. this is a prime indication that they aren't getting enough light. what happens is the plants cells grow faster when looking for the light. phototropism is when the plants grow towards the light. the cells in the shade grow faster causing the plant to bend towards the light source. this is basically what your plants are doing, but constantly all over.

any buds they made that were worthwhile would cause the tops to be too heavy and they would fall over.

no one is knocking your for trying to gain experience. it's just that there is a minimum recipie for success so to speak. if people weren't telling you how to improve your grow or offer advice then they would be doing you a disservice. not to mention there would be no need for the forums. sure sometimes (our) tact isn't perfect, but if you let that get under your skin then you should just go ahead and uplugg that ethernet cable in the back of your computer now!!! think about it, we get the same flipping questions hundreds of times a week. people don't introduce themselves, don't get aquainted with the rules, learn where to post or whatnot. they just want to rape the forums for answers and then burn off. kinda like veruca salt, you know from the willy wonka/charlie and the chocolate factory movies? "i want it and i want it now!" shit get's old. then you give advice and people want to debate you or talk trash to you from behind a keyboard. so, be like a duck be calm above the surface, but paddling like hell underneath and let the water roll off your back!

peace!


-shake