Top 2 examples of U.S. foreign depravity/hypocrisy

[Chineseyes]

Try telling that to some kid in a sweatshop making cheap goods so the west can have all the mod cons. :wtf:

That poor kid was probably eating bugs and crapping in the woods until that sweatshop showed up in his backyard and tripled the income of his entire family. Have you ever considered that the sweatshop could be the beginning of their industrial revolution, lifting an entire 3rd world country out of poverty over time? Consider India. Consider Japan, remember when everything they made was considered junk, I do.

What we need are more sweatshops set up in Mexico and Central America to decrease all the illegals coming over the border.

You call them sweatshops, I call them opportunity.

Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than all other systems combined.

It's raining where I live today, it's my first day on the political forum and I could rip this thread all day long, maybe I will

Later

[delusionsofNORMALity]

That poor kid was probably eating bugs and crapping in the woods until that sweatshop showed up in his backyard and tripled the income of his entire family. Have you ever considered that the sweatshop could be the beginning of their industrial revolution, lifting an entire 3rd world country out of poverty over time?

but the liberal establishment and its followers demand that everything happen NOW. the fact that progress is a sometimes lethargic sort of creature seems to escape them entirely. just as they seem to be oblivious to the reality that it is the corruption in the government of those countries that allows their people to be exploited and would rather place all the blame on those evil businessmen. that reality hits a bit too close to home.

It's raining where I live today, it's my first day on the political forum and I could rip this thread all day long, maybe I will

welcome to our small corner of paradise. we lost a whole lot of folks here in the shake-up a while back and i'm happy to see a new face willing to endure the insanity of our little political forum. hope to be ripping you a new one soon

[Islandborn]

There was a shake up here? What happened?

I agree, Capitalism has it's ugly side, but it's helped way more than it hurt.....but whatever, call me evil. I capitalized on the housing market crash and scooped a 2007, 2000 sq ft Lennar House for way cheap ( that I can afford) that got forclosed on for my kids to play in a yard...........IM EVIL!!! BWAAAAAAimp:

[Islandborn]

I guess it's all how you look at life.....take a crash or crisis and make it work for you. I did. Not sure what else a person can do, sit on sidelines? Not me.

[Chineseyes]

D of N,
Didn't know there was a shakeup here, too bad. I was a regular @ CannabisWorld until they destroyed that fine site. Came here when I decided to make the switch to hydro last year.

At any rate, liberal politicians aren't interested in helping anyone, only consolidating power.
It's that whole give 'em a fish/teach 'em to fish thing. Liberal democrats will give enough fish to get your vote and keep your heart beating but if they teach you to fish, you don't need them anymore.

Been reading Mark Levin's "Tyranny and Liberty" lately. I highly recommend it if you're interested in how we got to where we are today.
I have less tolerance for liberals with every turn of the page.

But we're losing sight of this thread!!

1. Nazi armies controlled by the CIA in 1950.
1945 pretty much ended it for the Nazis didn't it, June 6th or thereabouts.

2. Land mines in Vietnam.
I say we sell them thousands of goats and a few sheepdogs. Send the goats through all the fields. When all the landmines have been found, they can get their skinny asses back to work making growing rice and making Nikes.:smokin:

[Islandborn]

D of N,
Didn't know there was a shakeup here, too bad. I was a regular @ CannabisWorld until they destroyed that fine site. Came here when I decided to make the switch to hydro last year.

At any rate, liberal politicians aren't interested in helping anyone, only consolidating power.
It's that whole give 'em a fish/teach 'em to fish thing. Liberal democrats will give enough fish to get your vote and keep your heart beating but if they teach you to fish, you don't need them anymore.

Been reading Mark Levin's "Tyranny and Liberty" lately. I highly recommend it if you're interested in how we got to where we are today.
I have less tolerance for liberals with every turn of the page.

But we're losing sight of this thread!!

1. Nazi armies controlled by the CIA in 1950.
1945 pretty much ended it for the Nazis didn't it, June 6th or thereabouts.

2. Land mines in Vietnam.
I say we sell them thousands of goats and a few sheepdogs. Send the goats through all the fields. When all the landmines have been found, they can get their skinny asses back to work making growing rice and making Nikes.:smokin:

Amazing Book.....Enjoyed it from beginning to end.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Didn't know there was a shakeup here, too bad.

aw, management just changed its vision of this site, aiming more toward the medical aspects and and attempting to discourage the social side of the community. quite a few folks left and, though the grow section was hurt less, the sub-forums like politics and such were kinda left to founder.

liberal politicians aren't interested in helping anyone, only consolidating power.

make that all politicians and i'll agree with you 100%.

[psychocat]

The talk of foreign goverments allowing sweatshops of course raises the question of how these people came to power.
Could it be the result of support (either financial or military help) from interested outside parties, Pinochet gained power because of American paranoia.
There is much talk about Iran attempting to build nukes and the sanctions they should face and yet we stood by and in some ways even helped Israel achieve thier own nuclear status.
The west has an awful lot of skeletons rattling around in sooooo many closets.

[boaz]

The west has an awful lot of skeletons rattling around in sooooo many closets.

yeah, i agree. it can be an evil dog eat dog world at times and we have some the meanest dogs right here in the west. but the west (us, uk, canada) also does a lot of good in the world, too.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

The west has an awful lot of skeletons rattling around in sooooo many closets.

no nation can exist for long without making enemies and stepping on a few toes and the larger, more powerful the nation, the more enemies it makes. people today don't speak much about the atrocities committed by spain, france and england in their heyday. those are faded powers and of little consequence. we even seem to have forgiven the millions massacred by stalin and his progeny for the sake of the great socialist state and the similar barbarity of china's perpetual "communist revolution". great nations have always attempted to impose their will on lesser nations and even small countries have interfered in the affairs of their neighbors. that is the nature of power and the men who wield it. it may not be right or fair, but it is reality.

now it is america's turn to be reviled for its part in the shaping of the world and i suppose it's only natural. what i do find rather odd is the lengths to which this country's detractors will go in their search for the evil that hides in the american heart. the various dictatorships that america has supported over the years are invariably brought up as evidence of our malicious nature. labeled "puppet regimes", their opposition is usually glorified as the popular resistance or freedom fighters and romanticized as altruistic men and women giving up their lives for the good of the people. the truth, before history is revised for the sake of agenda, is seldom so romantic. backed by another powerful nation, usually with an ideology contrary to that of the u.s., the revolution is almost always merely a power struggle between opposing domestic forces under the influence of outside powers. the people themselves are of little concern to the combatants, it is the power that rests in the people that is being fought over.

for decades the soviet union and the united states battled for the supremacy of their respective ideologies in such a manner, each assured that their way of life was good and the other evil. in what seemed to be some sort of conclusion, the u.s.s.r., having bankrupted itself in an arms race with the u.s., appeared to fold. ceding a majority of its satellites and reining in its massive defense spending, the cold war was at an end. but it had really just begun. the battle was never about the division of the world between those two superpowers. it was a conflict between two fundamental ideologies, the supremacy of either the liberty of the individual or the will of the collective as translated by a governing body. neither a perfect solution, but the only alternatives that seemed available.

the funny part is that the apparent dissolution of the most prominent proponent of socialism in the world did more to strengthen its cause than to weaken it. under the guise of "helping the people", this enforced collectivism has become the popular cause. it is seen as the underdog in some epic battle and, having been defeated by an overwhelming force, is embraced as the great answer by the struggling masses. the wealth of the victor in that battle is undeniable and the poverty in which a majority of the world exists is equally apparent, so the evil must reside in that victor. it is described by the ignorant masses and their handlers as the good of the many as opposed to the good of the few, but it might better be described as the greed of the mob scrabbling after the possessions of others that they feel their mere existence entitles them to.

so the skeletons are brought out and paraded around. these, along with various bits of anecdotal evidence, are used to stir the members of the mob into giving up their dreams of becoming one of the few and handing their governments the last vestiges of individual power they have left to them. in more civilized climes the lie of the ballot box is used to coerce the citizens into believing they are enforcing their rights to the belongings of others, while in savage lands warlords use more blatant means to wring what wealth and power they can out of the inhabitants. this small experiment in tempering the anger of the mob with justice is soon to come to an abrupt halt, degenerating into just another mindless herd led by the unscrupulous to no particular end.

human beings can be so intelligent on an individual level, but en masse they are among the most ignorant of creatures.






please excuse the rant. i know i've gotten a bit off course, but i'm feeling particularly disgusted with the ignorance of the mob.