A Few Minor Problems

[jakal369]

So week 5 is quickly approaching and I noticed I obviously over nuted the plants. The pH was WAY to high for some reason and I'm looking to lower it. Are all signs that don't look healthy in the included pictures symptoms of over-nuting. I know for a fact it isn't lack of light or over watering. The run off is also a tanish, brown color. When I water the plants I give just enough to where some drops of water begin to fall out of the drainage holes and collect it for testing. Anyway, take a look and tell me what you think. They are all about 4 1/2 weeks old. Also if you have any thoughts as to what type these girls may be feel free to post thoughts. They are all different shades of green, and although all were planted at the same time, one is GIGANTIC! You can't tell in the picture but it's about 2 to 2 1/2 feet tall.

jakal369 Reviewed by jakal369 on 08-31-2009. A Few Minor Problems So week 5 is quickly approaching and I noticed I obviously over nuted the plants. The pH was WAY to high for some reason and I'm looking to lower it. Are all signs that don't look healthy in the included pictures symptoms of over-nuting. I know for a fact it isn't lack of light or over watering. The run off is also a tanish, brown color. When I water the plants I give just enough to where some drops of water begin to fall out of the drainage holes and collect it for testing. Anyway, take a look Rating: 5

[jakal369]

The others :

[jonnychimpo]

have you flushed out your plant/plants already if not i suggest that you give it a try

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fill out the troubleshooting form.

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[jakal369]

What is your experience level? 2nd attempt

Your Equipment:

.1) Type and wattage of lights. 4 13 watt 1700 lumen CFL, 2 13 watt 825 lumen CFLs.
.2) Distance from tops? 2-3 inches
.3) Reflector type? Standard lamp reflectors
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? Fans and air purifier
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? Circulation fans
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? All in blue spectrum, 20/4 schedule.

Your medium:

.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (Miracle Grow Moisture Control) and anything you've added to it. (nothing)
.8) Size of container. 2 gallons
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? No

Your nutrients and water:

10) Source of water? (tap) What's it's ph before adjusting? 7.0
11) Method of checking water ph. (aquarium test kit)
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (Baking soda, amonia)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. Soil is 14-7-10, water twice a week, once normal water, one with ph up or down
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? Water when soil tells me to, just enough to where some runoff comes through the drainage holes.
15) Any additives or tea's? (none)
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? Stable
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph? Ingoing, 7.0, runoff is about 5-6
18) Do you foliar feed? no

Your growroom:

19) Indoors or outdoors? indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut? Built in closet space, about 1x2 and 2 feet high
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? Lights on, temp is 78 and humidity is 54%. Lights off, temp is 74 and humidity is about 50%
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? None

Your strain:

23) What strain are you growing? (Indica)
24) From seeds or clones? seed
25) Is this an autoflower strain? Don't know.


The plants were fine until I added too much Ph for one week. Now I've dropped everything and only add pure water with a ph of about 6.9 to 7.0. They are still growing quite nicely, but the lower leaves of my biggest are yellow and the edges around one other are yellowish. I'm trying to prevent spread and maintain a healthy plant.
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[headshake]

where did you get 13W, 1700 lumen CFLs?

if my math is correct you you have 8450 lumens covering 2 sq ft. you want a minimum of 5000 lumns/sq ft. i'm not saying that lighting is 100% of your problem.

a pH of 7.0 is too high. pH is critical in the uptake of nutes. as a general rule a high pH makes micro nutes less available. 6.3-6.8 is where you want to shoot for soil.

how are you taking a runoff pH? if you are using the test kit the results will be skiewed due to the color of the runoff due to nutes and soil.

why are you watering with normal water and then either pH up or down? you need properly pH'd water at all times. and ammonia is a sever poison. i have never used it, but i don't think that i would. go get some pH up or down. you shouldn't need both 'til you have a digital meter. adjust to 6.8 or so (or leave at 7 maybe?) and add your nutes. they are usually around nuetral i believe and will drop your overall pH to within range.

good growing!


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[jakal369]

haha the local Wal Mart here had 13 watt CFLs, not sure if they were 1700 or 1800 lumens but it was a knock out deal, so I bought a few. The ph deal, I've always used tap water I let sit out over night and the ph was around 7, you know how finicky the aquarium kits are, and watered the plants until a small amount of water began to drip out of the drainage holes. ONLY recently, for about two waterings, have I tried to raise ph by adding baking soda to some water. I only added a tad which raised the ph to around 8 or 9, which was good because the runoff from the plants prior was really, really low. That helped them bush up and spurt into action, but a few days later the yellow began to appear. Now, since that was only towards the end of last week, I've switched to plain tap water with a ph of 7 while I figure out what the heck to do. Thanks for your knowledge! It won't be wasted haha. I'll try my best to make it to the shop sometime soon and get some ph up and down and a better kit to read the levels correctly. It's a REAL small grow area, here I took some pics from afar so you can get a better image of the whole operation.


headshake - appreciate the constant comments, you've replied to all of my posts




The yellowing in the pictures has looked the same since early Saturday morning, today being late Monday night (time of pictures below).

[jakal369]

A little more :

[headshake]

no worries jakal. i try to help out around here. pay my unpayable debt, ya know?

they are looking pretty good. they only thing i can say is more light!!!


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[jakal369]

It looks like my biggest and best quality is a hermie. There are the small white, thin, little hairs that symbolize a female, but just recently, approaching week five, I've noticed these very small, tulip looking blossoms that havent sprouted yet. They are scaring me, it looks like little seeds, then again it also looks like little tulip leaves about to open and grow. Any input? If it is a hermie (I'll try to take higher quality pics), how does that affect the overall yield? Will it be the same, just with seeds here and there throughout, or will it be a small amount of buds and large amount of seeds? Regardless, I'll grow it to it's potential, just use the seeds for future grows and pathetically toke on the small amount it puts out til others grow.