thanks again for the help i think im going to put them on 18/6 schedule because of electricity and heat. the reason i wanted to flower early is because i dont think ill have enough room to finish if it gets any bigger. from what i understand they more than double in size, and also to get any other female outdoors before its too late. i think im gonna wait it out though untill 4 weeks since theyve just now started to take off. if anything i might do some minor lst training to keep them down. i guess im just over anxious (newbie syndrome) i check them like every 10 mins lol jk more like every 5.