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08-18-2009, 03:37 AM #1OPMember
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
how u doin its my first post first grow. well they germinated fine and were growing good untill i transplanted from jiffy peat pellets to soil. then the growth seems to have stopped. the plants are only a week old and in the light i can see them lime green. in the pictures you cant really tell but they are folding in half length wise and have a shade of purple under the leaf, and on the new leaf growth. the funny thing is one of the plants wasnt in the jiffy pellets, i started it in the soil and its at the same pace at the others. maybe i have newbie syndrom but they definetly slowed down.
any comments welcome.
they are in styrofoam cups, i have 4 26 watt cfls onthem.
three fans two intake one large exaust,temp is around 86 but i put in a frozen bottle of water and temp goes down to about 76 - 80.
home made co2 sugar and yeast in 2 liter with hose to box.
it was kind of dry so i put in a bowl of water for humidity , no humidity reader.
water ph is around 6 - 6.5, soil ph i dont know.
light cycle is 24/0, water whenever soil dries out.
i fed the plant that wasnt in a pellet about 1/3 of a teaspoon of 18-18-21 fertilizer and about the same of molasses diluted in 32 oz of water until drainaged from bottomof cup. just to see if it perks up, the other plants have just been fed regular filtered water. any thing else that could help you help me let me know thanks in advance.jmurk5mm Reviewed by jmurk5mm on . first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth how u doin its my first post first grow. well they germinated fine and were growing good untill i transplanted from jiffy peat pellets to soil. then the growth seems to have stopped. the plants are only a week old and in the light i can see them lime green. in the pictures you cant really tell but they are folding in half length wise and have a shade of purple under the leaf, and on the new leaf growth. the funny thing is one of the plants wasnt in the jiffy pellets, i started it in the soil Rating: 5
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08-18-2009, 03:41 AM #2OPMember
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
tryng to see if i can get the pictures bigger they were on another site but i got no help there and i deleted them off of my computer. ill post new ones whenever i see some changes
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08-18-2009, 03:43 AM #3OPMember
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
oh and there white widow from nirvana by the way
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08-18-2009, 04:05 AM #4OPMember
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
What is your experience level? first timer
Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. 4 CFL's 26 watts
.2) Distance from tops? about an inch to 2 inches
.3) Reflector type? bare bulb
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? yes
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? yes
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 26 watts daylight i believe 6700, 24/0
Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, evergreen potting soil
.8) Size of container. 8oz styrofoam cup
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? yes
Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? filtered What's it's ph before adjusting? 6
11) Method of checking water ph. test strips
12) Method of adjusting water ph. none
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle.miracle gro tomatoe 18-18-21 List dosages 1/3 of a teaspoon test fed one plant.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, one week and how much per watering? untill drainage from bottom of cup
15) Any additives or tea's? molasses
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? water stable soil uknown
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? 6 ...your runoff ph?
18) Do you foliar feed?yes If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? filtered water at waterings during the day
Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut?large cardoard box
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? 76-80 ...With lights off?unknown
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?no
Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? white widow nirvana
24) From seeds or clones? seeds
25) Is this an autoflower strain? no
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08-18-2009, 11:41 AM #5Senior Member
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
Looks like they are being fried by heat or and nutrients. Seedlings should not get food untill 2 weeks old.
Does your soil have nutes already in it ?
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08-18-2009, 12:54 PM #6OPMember
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
thanks for the reply, it was very weak and i only fed one of them. but i think i found the problem this morning i tested the runoff and the ph is 8.4 yikes!
the alkalinity is 240 ppm. how do i fix this? help!
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08-18-2009, 12:58 PM #7OPMember
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
also i messed up the soil is robin hood landscape potting soil and theres no mentionof nutes. it does say 45-50% compost if that means any thing
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08-21-2009, 08:23 PM #8OPMember
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
well thanks alot guys one of the plants is doing better some new grow the others are getting worse will post pics later.
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08-21-2009, 08:56 PM #9Senior Member
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
What method did you use to get the ph of your runoff?
What's your water ph going in? If necessary, I strongly recommend any of the phDown products specifically for agriculture or gardening. There's nitric acid, which is not a good idea later-on when trying to flower 'em, there's sulphuric acid, and there's phosphoric acid, which I use.
In a pinch you can lower the ph using vinegar or lemon juice. Aim for a water ph of 6.3 to 6.8ish. I've heard thay aren't especially good long-term, but I have never done so myself for more than a few days. (till my acid is delivered)
There's too much nitrogen in a compost (or garden mix) and no way to flush it either. Again, I strongly recommend you get some container potting mix with perlite in it, and transplant asap.
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08-23-2009, 02:05 PM #10OPMember
first timer leaves folding up,stunted growth
thanks for the reply, i used phenol red to test the runoff from a pool test kit and i also used strips. the water going in is about 6.3.
i actually used organic applle cider vinegar to lower ph and it worked. i also transplanted to bigger pots to see if that helped.
overall they all look to small for their age and only one is really looking somewhat healthy.
but then again theyve been through shock so that could explain the slow growth.
will post pics soon
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