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	08-16-2009, 06:14 PM #1 OPJunior Member OPJunior Member
 Obama cracking downI am an Obama lover... 
 
 But it really seems since he became pres the feds are really cracking down way more than when bush was pres.
 
 I heard helicopters this year are way more active in humbolt, more grows are being busted than any year in last 6 years.
 
 Indoor busts..san francisco sunset has had 6 busts in last 6 months...that is in sunset alone.
 
 I think feds are being quiet about it..but if you ask around we are in midst of major crackdown...something we havent seen in years.
 
 I think bush was so focused on terrorism he backed off of growers...helicopters were being put to other uses...plus you may be seeing those stimula dollars at work on pot busts...
 
 Just weird that feds are cracking down so hard recently in cali..even in state budget crisis.
 
 I still love Obama..but i think the federal deparments are working harder..doing there jobs better for botter or for worse.allinat420 Reviewed by allinat420 on . Obama cracking down I am an Obama lover... But it really seems since he became pres the feds are really cracking down way more than when bush was pres. I heard helicopters this year are way more active in humbolt, more grows are being busted than any year in last 6 years. Indoor busts..san francisco sunset has had 6 busts in last 6 months...that is in sunset alone. I think feds are being quiet about it..but if you ask around we are in midst of major crackdown...something we havent seen in years. Rating: 5
 
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	08-16-2009, 06:45 PM #2 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama cracking downand why exaclty do you love obama? 
 
 -shake
 
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	08-16-2009, 06:53 PM #3 OPJunior Member OPJunior Member
 Obama cracking downI LOVE Obama cuz he is so cool. 
 
 I am a berkeley liberal at heart.
 
 And i like to see those fed guys (in other departments) get the whip cracked and have to work for their money. I like those guys getting biatch smacked and their asses whacked.
 
 And on our side..Obama is driving up prices..anyone notices prices are going up? so even their is a bright side for the big commercial growers atleast.
 
 So I still love obama. its hard to find someone who doesnt in these parts.
 
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	08-16-2009, 09:28 PM #4 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama cracking downEver think that what he says might be for show? Judge him by his policies actions, not by what he says he supports. 
 
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	08-16-2009, 11:12 PM #5 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama cracking downyeah, what he said. Originally Posted by TC42o Originally Posted by TC42o
 
 have you ever noticed that he's not that eloquent? he's good at reading off the teleprompter, but if you listen to him without it it's full of "uhs".
 
 
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	08-16-2009, 11:17 PM #6 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama cracking downi guess you're gettin' what you deserve then dude! 
 
 man, people like you make me sick! ...it's morons who vote for someone
 because 'they're so cool' that have this country in this mess!
 
 you've been swallowing that 'liberal' puke so long, you believe it!
 
 what people like you don't ever understand is that that kind of liberalism
 is tantamount to socialism! ...and we don't want any!
 
  Originally Posted by allinat420 Originally Posted by allinat420
 
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	08-16-2009, 11:19 PM #7 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama cracking downYou must spread some Reputation around before giving it to headshake again. 
 
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	08-16-2009, 11:28 PM #8 Junior Member Junior Member
 Obama cracking downCan't argue with that logic. Originally Posted by allinat420 Originally Posted by allinat420 
 
 As an admitted lib you shouldn't be surprised to notice the controlling nature of a pseudo Marxist.  
 
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	08-17-2009, 01:17 AM #9 Senior Member Senior Member
 Obama cracking downBozo, you are deluding yourself. There is no socialism happening that hasn't already happened. Medicare, VA, Social Security already exist. I personally need someone to help me the middle class dude afford insurance for myself and family. There is no reason we can't do this, we pissed away how much money on Iraq yet you bitch about spending money to help Americans? What about all the money we spent on Wall Street. I'm sorry but politically I disagree with you. 
 
 Republicans HATE you because what you do yet you have a problem with the guy who told the DEA to back off the states? I heard medical grows were being left alone, it the dirty gang bang beaner gangsters that are getting busted.
 
 
 
  Originally Posted by justanotherbozo
					
				Voting GOP this year is like giving the keys back to the drunk driver that wrecked the economy when they show no remorse for their actions and haven\'t even sobered up yet. Originally Posted by justanotherbozo
					
				Voting GOP this year is like giving the keys back to the drunk driver that wrecked the economy when they show no remorse for their actions and haven\'t even sobered up yet.
 
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	08-17-2009, 01:40 AM #10 Junior Member Junior Member
 Obama cracking downMarijuana/Stoners Inc â?? DOES NOT EQUAL â?? Medical Marijuana 
 
 Prop 215 doesn't really talk about dispensaries/cannabis clubs/pot stores/drug dealers acting as care... so they've fallen under a VERY grey area - tolerated as a "necessary" component of medical marijuana in California, but most of these places are nothing more than drug dealers taking advantage of their relative free pass and the captive audience of the patients. So effectively, there is no real way to distinguish between pot growing for medical use or pot growing for traditional 'black market' sales. I'd argue that until the pot gets into the hands of the actual patients, it's ALL THE SAME. The patient's half of the transaction (any transaction) IS FULLY LEGAL. The seller (unless their actual caregiver) is not legal (but the closer to the patient the transaction is, the more likely it is to be overlooked in practice and considered ok).
 
 Now, it's hard to believe that it's been a year since our esteemed Attorney General Jerry Brown issued his guidelines for Medical Marijuana (primarily because he's done little to nothing to actually enforce those guidelines) but as of August 2008, we basically had a directive from the top law enforcement official in the State of California on what would constitute a LEGAL marijuana distribution system for medical use. These guidelines are absolutely wonderful and will do much to help correct the many problems that Medical Marijuana faces in California.
 
 Unfortunately, Jerry needs to grow a pair (especially if he's interested in running for Governor) and begin to enforce these rules... or better yet, just set a future date - say January 1, 2010, at which time the rules would go into effect and any operating MMJ Dispensaries/Pot Clubs/Etc at that time would be then checked out and certified as complying (if so).... This would give current clubs ample time to work on meeting the new requirements before they would go into effect. Any owners/operators who did not wish to comply could simply leave the business before the cut-off date and they would be allowed to do so without fear of future state investigation or retribution. Coupled with any new revenue bills that might come into play on the taxation of medical marijuana sales, a Jan 1, 2010 date makes sense and would allow those compassionate groups that choose to invest in the future of MMJ in California to begin collecting those taxes as appropriate and have a clean break from the past.
 
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