The Second Civil War?

[wingedson]

Good post Killer, I am curious what you think the sacrifice will be. As far as I can tell the sacrifice will mostly be in foregoing a consumer oriented lifestyle in favor of something more sustainable, and something with less fences and walls between us, physically, and emotionally. What are your thoughts? :detective1:

[PufferLungs]

Where's the sacrifice by the corporate pigs who got us into this mess in the first place?

Reagan started this war on the middle class. Everybody in this country wants to kick the workin' man when times get tough. Like it's his fukin' fault? Reagan started that BS and 2 entire generations of Americans have bought into that line of horse shit.

Workin' men make this country move. Corporate managers don't do a gawd damn th9ing thats productive. They make all the decisions. THEY are responsible for allowing their short term greed to ruin this country instead of concentrating on long term stability.

The workin' man in this country has sacrificed ENOUGH. It's ENOUGH!!! Our children have fewer opportunities today than they did 30yrs ago. Republicans have done this to us. 30yrs of Republican control and behind the scenes manipulation has destroyed the middle class. First they took women out of the home and put them into the work force. Then they took away wages and benefits. Then the crashed the economy and put their foot on the back of your neck to hold you down.

Republicans don't want you FREE. They want you on the payment plan. They want you beholden to the bankers every month for your mortgage and your car. And you pay and you pay. They let it ride about 30yrs and then they wreck it all again. People work their entire lives and end up losing it all just as they get ready to retire. Just as they are about to leave their assets to their children. And back on the payment plan you go.

Republicans don't want an "ownership" society. They want a 2-class society in this country. They want the ultra-rich aristocratic ruling class - and they want the poor working fuks who are too beat up to even bother fighting back!!

WAKE UP AMERICA!! Republicans are BAD for you!!

Took a fuking Democrat to finally tell the DEA to lay off medical marijuana users - didn't it? Took a Democrat in the White House to finally allow the relaxation of laws so you could grow weed in your own home for personal/medical use - didn't it?!?!?!

:S4: Fuk all you stupid Republicans!!

[epxroot]

WAKE UP AMERICA!! Republicans are BAD for you!!

Republicans, democrats, what ever. They all work for the same interests.

[Trip06]

Republicans, democrats, what ever. They all work for the same interests.

couldnt agree more,

[BlueBlazer]

Republicans, democrats, what ever. They all work for the same interests.

:thumbsup: They are all just a bunch of big green heads to keep our attention away from the man behind the curtain.

[jakester]

I don't think were at the point of no return. I think America can be salvaged but it is going to take an enormous effort and sacrifice on the part of the people that actually work for a lving. Its actually a simple concept but will require enormous sacrifice and thats to just get back to the constitution. The origiinal constitution written by our forefathers had everything in it that our country required. There is nothing that needed to be added or taken away. No patriot would ever have considered changing it.
If we can just allow the states to run there states the way they want without federal intrusion and as long as no state passes a law that violates the US constitution then our society could continue for many more centuries.

Word. Even better, we go back to the origin of our government and recreate it based on those original ideals but with the new world in mind. We don't need to send some farmer 500 miles over horseback to go tell the federal government what we the people think. Why are we paying those bastards to give themselves raises and fuck the working people with more tax than they can handle to support that salary?

We have the internet. We should be creating a social networking site called "Shadow Government" instead of planning on some sort of civil war or armed revolution. If we can do a better job running the country form the sidelines it's only a matter of time before our fake polls get more votes than the real thing. How long can this farce of a federal government stand in the face of that sort of humiliation?

This is 2010, why can't We the People vote on everything? Fuck representative democratic socialism. Let's take control.

[Trip06]

guess you should have at least 6 months of food stored up, in any case,
Civil unrest,
political unrest,
Natural disastor,
Civil War,

Hell the dollar bill alone is collapsing, Imagine what that means when it finally all catches up. Hyperinflation. They either reevaluate the currencey by taking all the extra out circulation(oh hands) leaveing us in 3rd world status and bankrupt, installing a military dictatorship to "controll the chaos". Now If you think this is extreme, Need only look at the LA riots or the Detroit riots. Find footage on the web. Ive watch 100's of people die on camera bum russing stores for food and the store owners fending them off with their pistols. That is just a small part of what a collpase would be like. Think it out. Look up fema's website, look at the presidentail directives. He becomes full fledge dictator and by law can seize your home, vehicles, force you into labor camps, sieze farm equipment, everything all under "continuity of Government" Think about the stores in your city. Once there looted, thats it. No more resupply. No fuel going to farmers tracktors to harvest large fields to feed millions of people. You either plant your own little "victory garden" and live off your stored food or you starve. hunting wild life is a joke, with in a month the deer herd would be completley extinct. Unless you lived in the remote mountains of alaska or the rockies. Maybe nothing happens. Maybe it does. lets look at the basics here.
Your looking at 6 months of food.
cost of six months of brown rice and beans ~$120
Cost of a surplus bolt rifle $100
cost of 500 rounds of ammo 80 bucks.

Ask your selves why dont you have these things when they cost next to nothing? You can upgrade as you go as I did or just go all out and get good shit, good gear, a modern military rifle. And If you dont have this mind set then keep worrying and beating around the bush with all your political worry. I dont have to worry, I know after a couple grand worth of well spent money, and well thought out planning and acquired knowledge that I dont have to care about this bullshit. I guess what im getting at is remember back when the constitution was made, when every male citizen was intended to keep and bear arms and be a 'citizen soilder'. The idea of being prepaired. Yeah not all of us are farmers and live in the country. but like stated above pennies well spent go a long way. the second amendment is not given to us by God upon birth as law of the land acknowledged by the constitution for hunting and self defence first. First and foremost it was given to us to form militias and protect us against our own government and foreign invasion. Keep beating around the bush. keep whineing about the problems and the NWO. Shit dont worry me. Be prepaired, Go protest as much as you can untill shit goes down.

[Trip06]

Word. Even better, we go back to the origin of our government and recreate it based on those original ideals but with the new world in mind. We don't need to send some farmer 500 miles over horseback to go tell the federal government what we the people think. Why are we paying those bastards to give themselves raises and fuck the working people with more tax than they can handle to support that salary?

We have the internet. We should be creating a social networking site called "Shadow Government" instead of planning on some sort of civil war or armed revolution. If we can do a better job running the country form the sidelines it's only a matter of time before our fake polls get more votes than the real thing. How long can this farce of a federal government stand in the face of that sort of humiliation?

This is 2010, why can't We the People vote on everything? Fuck representative democratic socialism. Let's take control.

Whos planning some civil war or Armed revolution. YOU IGNORANT FUCK, You think all of us patriots and militas and gun owners are Gearing up to over throw the government. YOU NEED A BRAIN CHECK. We are DEFENSIVE! Nobodys trying to take back the govenrment LMAO. You poor little fool. People like me are "gearing up" to survive when "THEY" cross the line. When "they" come to grab our guns or impose on our civil liberties. Thats When WE will use our power under the power given to us from the constitution. You must live a sheltered life. The people you are refering to are out protesting and it dosnt do any good. You might have some skin head psyco fucks out there that will do stupid shit and shoot some cops, but you have that element in everything. People reconize that things keep going down the hole, they are preparing for defence. The infowar is already happening. If that fails wtf do you think people do then? Beg the government for food, beg for amnesty when you were bitching at them for being bad guys. When it all comes crashing down you will wish you prepared in some manner. And if your on here thinking this is hog wash, then why are you beating around the bush worrying? Your bitching on a cannabis website about your worrys. I dont have to worry. Im not violent, Im not radical. But if shit hits the fan Im going to have a chance.

[Trip06]

Word. Even better, we go back to the origin of our government and recreate it based on those original ideals but with the new world in mind. We don't need to send some farmer 500 miles over horseback to go tell the federal government what we the people think. Why are we paying those bastards to give themselves raises and fuck the working people with more tax than they can handle to support that salary?

We have the internet. We should be creating a social networking site called "Shadow Government" instead of planning on some sort of civil war or armed revolution. If we can do a better job running the country form the sidelines it's only a matter of time before our fake polls get more votes than the real thing. How long can this farce of a federal government stand in the face of that sort of humiliation?

This is 2010, why can't We the People vote on everything? Fuck representative democratic socialism. Let's take control.

How can you be talking about starting to change things If you havent taken the responcibility of being self reliant to a degree If you succede. Lets say the infowar wakes up enough people before the government dose some nasty shit, lets say you have enouf people protesting and the government actully backs down from there corruption. How are you going to indure the hard times? You still have to have food, water, security, during political unrest. during the change. Your talking about a mass uprooting of corruption that has imbedded itself in our government over the last 100+years.
And your still thinking you wont have to get your hands dirty. LMAO. sorry it dont work that way. "planning a civil war" LMFAO. what do you think is the last resort when THEY STRIKE FIRST. When THEY DONT CHANGE. WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU.

[Trip06]

Theres already an information war going on, about the corruption and truth of whats going on behind the scene. Why do you thing that its in law that radio stations and tv shows have fema boxes to sever conections during an "emergency" why do you think that the UN is trying to shut down the Internet and make net 2.0 where they will controll everything and anything "subversive" to supernazi police state will be taken down. No more free speech. See the internet is vunerable, If they want they can just shut it off when they decide were too much a threat. Or they can warp peoples minds into, constitutionalist militias are working with alquida and bombed some building, or are every where in the USA. See they can play with you all day long and way they want. It all boils down to survival IF it happens. Shit maybe nothing happens. Maybe they start demonizing different groups of people like n Germany. Maybe they start saying returing veterans and gun owners are potential terrorist because they have knowledge and potential to resist. OH WAIT that was in the DHS miac report. Thats write they even classified protesting as low level terrorism. They make you have to get permits, and have free speech zones. Department of "homeland" security Is for us, not for terrorists. The only other time this concept of "homeland" bullshit was used in history was in GERMANY.