LetsSeeYa I agree with you on the reading. I have been spending hours upon hours reading on here! I have been following your post and threads on here as well with others. And Yes I am sure the plants are 4 months old.. They have been outdoors their whole life! From what I understand Preflower doesnt start until 12/12 but I could be wrong. I have read and read but still unable to determine if they are female. I have to give props to alot of people on this site because you guys KNOW what you are talking about. I am going now to read about topping.. Thanks for the info.. Any info is much needed and appreciated. Personally I think I have done good so far for my first grow!