I grabbed a friend who is a greens person in the film industry, they grow all the plants for the movies, he also went to oaksterdam he loves to grow anything cannabis, exotic plants, coffee, he is great. Concluded that my PH meter is messed up and my plants are locked up... I am hydro so it is not to bad of a fix... But I want to get some before and after pictures. The fan leaves that are messed up is it best just to cut them off. I have on a few or should I keep them. I have been working towards this Idea that I have been over feeding them this entire time... Hmmm. So new rule have two meters so you can keep them in check every once and a while. This is a very solo gig and for some reason you don't think you meters are off you just think that stuff works, and it is not like you can go across the street and grab some ones ph meter to see if your is working. But this weekend I will toss up some more pictures.