UVb an experiment

[Dutch Pimp]

Hey WhiskeyTango (420), what you up to besides slumming here! Besides UVb experiments we got future moleasses ones about to start. Are you a believer or skeptic with the use of either? Good to see you stopped by, hope you stop around more.:thumbsup:

WT ..is moving in multi-directions...:thumbsup:

[WhiskeyTango]

heh...thanks DP!...lol

Oldmac- I am a believer of both! Mole-asses or Succanant!

good vibes

whats up WEEZ!!!!

[Weezard]

heh...thanks DP!...lol

Oldmac- I am a believer of both! Mole-asses or Succanant!

good vibes

whats up WEEZ!!!!

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[oldmac]

Thought I'd update what I got going on. I ran a second batch wo/UVb again, but turned on the UVb supplemental lighting at week 6 of flower (last week on 9/23). In less then a week trichomes have gone from all clear to almost all cloudy. You can still find some clear but not many.

If anyone remembers my last run I never got to amber tric's even at 9 weeks. The White Rhino I'm running usually finishes in 7 1/2 to 8 1/2 weeks, so the addition of UVb at week 6 has made a major difference all ready in "ripening" the current crop.

I need to find a cheap UV light meter so I can start to quantify the amounts of UVb being used. Also, I'm trying to figure out how to do a UVb experiment during vegative growth. I may try something with the Pro-mix grow once I see what we have going on there after the next run is done.

[MerryPrankstr]

oldmac,
I've been following this thread since the beginning with interest, but not a whole lot to add. I'm not sure I have anything real to add yet, either.

The thing is, I'm not sure that it reall neccesary for the trichs to turn amber. You saw my humble bagseed grow. I never saw more than one or two amer trichs, but that stuff was mature and ripe, for sure. Are you sure it's not jut that we're used to determining ripeness that way and it atually is a signal for THC degradation.

I, too, remember all the old growers tales about how important UV is to the growth and flowering. The only proper way would be a quantitve assay, which is most likely not available to us. Still an open mind here, but nothing has been proven yet either way.



BTW, I like that aero setupon your other thread. If God grants me time enough for another grow I might even "go there".

[ exit stage left with a dark, wicked "muhahaha! echoing in the the distance ]

AS always... er...
M.P.

[oldmac]

Hey MerryPrankstr,

Just adding your thoughts are good enough. I think I proved, at least to myself, that UVb does not add to trichome production. I was of the opinion based on the "plant protecting itself" myth that UVb would add trics and that ain't so. I got a glimpse of that last year growing a mmj designed for cancer patients we nicknamed "apricot". When I got plant cuttings from a fellow in the midwest he showed and told me there are no Trichomes on the leaves and only moderate amounts on the buds. All I could think is "wait till I grow these, you'll see trics..." and no matter what I did, no matter what UVb I threw at them they stayed true to the mom. This was the first stuff I ever grew that we threw away the trimmings because there was nothing to get kief from.

As to ripeness, UVb has a definite influence on trichome finishing. If it means one week less to get to what I look for in this strain (25% amber) then it is worth it to me, time is money. The other thing I noticed was a lack of smell or aroma when not using UVb, apparently for a flower to smell like a flower it needs some UVb.

OT: not sure what health problems you're battling, but keep fighting. I met my housemate Tonto when he was in hospice care and told he had 2 weeks, that was 12 years ago. Hope you get better, I want to see you try some fog growing.

[Rusty Trichome]

OM: When inspecting the harvested buds, did you happen to check the undersides of the leaves for trichomes? Just curious, b'cuz when I was running the UV in flower, it seemed to 'unlock' the flood gates with trichs on the undersides. (indica dom) Wanted to check this on my sativa doms this winter, but didn't get a chance. Usually I'll see a few, but not many. Fairly packed undersides are not a 'normal' trait for this strain, so am curious of other's results as well...

[MerryPrankstr]

Hi oldmac,

Thanks for walking me through the methodolgy of your experimentation. It seems well founded to me, FWIW (LOL).

I'll keep an eye on this thread.

BYW I purchased some "UV" LEDs some time ago. They make credit card markings, etc visible to the naked eye and came with a warning about eye protection. Are these actual UV LEDs or smoke and mirrors.

Thanks for the OT uplifting info. I haven't given up but am a 3rd time loser with the big "C". Not giving up, but a realist. Maybe yes, maybe no.

Still love that aero, though.
Later
M.P.

[oldmac]

Rusty; When I ran the first experiment wo/UVb I expected less trichome production everywhere, but did not see any less then before. The white rhino puts tric's everywhere; stems, branches, under side of leaves and even tric's trying to grow on top of other tric's on top of the leaves. That just did not change wo/UVb. Just one strain tho, so it may not hold true for others. That's the porblem with limited experiments. Soon I'm going to change to running batches of PPP, and I'll repeat the experiment with them.

[oldmac]

Hey M.P.;

While I wish this was more of a scientific experiment, I can only do observational evaluations. As I just mentioned to Rusty, I've only dealt with one strain here and look forward to reapeating it with other strains, so "strain dependent" could still be a factor.

LEDs are available in UV, in fact since LEDs have such narrow wavelenghts you can find UVa, UVb and UVc LEDs. The TI's Pro-Bloom has some UVb diodes, that's the reason I want to get a UV light meter. I'd like to see how much they put out vs. the reptile lights I use to supplement my personal grow. I get the feeling I'm throwing more UVb power then is necessary.

OT; As you probably know I provide mmj thru a cancer & hospice group, too many from the first group I see again in the second group. But there are cases like Tonto, stage 4 for so many years yet like he says "not my time yet" when I ask him how he feels. Stay strong, my thoughts are with you.
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