thanks for the imput of the ph. like i said in the begianing of my thread; "here are some of my grow notes i took fron reading books and trial and err. fell free to add somthings i missed or dont know. i would like to get some good growing tips to add, or maybe this will help somone" .looking for feed back on my notes or info in anything is wrong. all these notes were takien for the best of ask ED Rosenthal, the grow bible Jorge Cervantes. i just posted what i read