thanks for ur imput. ive been on the conserventive side on nutes. but ill still get a dicent return on my first grow. not what i wanted, but not bad. i have two setups for this grow. 1 for starting and 1 for the finish. both drip and re circ. how about some light info on just starting new plants. i have a 300 w LED light that didnt seem to work real goood w/ younger auto plants.works good for reg plants, not autos i have a couple hps 1000w a 400w mh and a 75w mh. iam thinkin about the 400w to start and as soon as i signs of flower move them to the "pond" for flower. thanks for the invite for a friend request, ill take ya up on it. i understand the mail request. what part of the country you at. iam in n/w az hot and dry. thanks again M