MY 90watt led ufo tri ban

[potofgold]

whoa whoa whoa! i wasn't knocking you or your thread (or your light for that matter). i was one of the first to comment on your thread and have been following along the whole time.

i was merely asking you a question. all of a sudden you start going into indepth, scienfitic stuff. i was merely asking if those were your words and thoughts or what?

then i saw that they were copied and pasted from a certain website. fine. i was merely talking about those statements from that website....that just so happened to be posted in your grow log. i am sorry for not being more clear.

so next time, step back from the keyboard, take a hit and read what is written. don't try to guess what is inferred. if you have a question, ask. i'm a straight-up dude. i'll answer it. i don't need to try to allude to something, i'll tell ya. just like i'd tell ya to your face. i don't need to hide behind a keyboard and talk trash.

agian, my apologies for not being more clear in my post. that tends to happen sometimes. i start typing, my brain starts running, i have to swith my posts around. sometimes they aren't clear and concise (maybe i should go back and re-read them more).

with that being said, if anything, the fact that you can get the same thing cheaper should have provoked thought. "hmmmmm, i can get this cheaper? where? how?" you know what i'm sayin? that could even make you money.

damn, i'm an asshole. lol.

anyhow. dude, i don't, haven't and won't ever degrade or talk shit to someone for no reason. not my style. all i try to do is help around here. make this place better, ya know?

sorry for rambling. be easy.


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my bad bro. i thought you where talking shit about my grow/lights. i am quick to jump all over shit like that because i always get people talking shit on other fourms. every day i deal with people saying i have cheap ass lights and waisted my money and i am a dumb ass ect... and it realy pisses me off that people would tell somone that instead of just not posting and leaving it alone. yes i copyed it from that web site prosource. its been one of those days, sorry about that bull shit:jointsmile: you have to admitt yiur post did soud like you were talking shit. lol. be easy and smoke on my brother. next time ill ask instead of geeting all crazy.

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it's all good potogold. and you're right, when i went back and read it it did look bad. even if i felt the way you say people post (which i don't), i would only offer constructive criticism. i'm rooting for you and LEDs! i'm thinking about getting some.

keep up the good work!


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[irydyum]

i guess its kinda like when you mix MH with hps at the same time, it slows down your plant and affects yeild.

Did the LED fairy tell you that too? Cmon now, who said that using hps and mh will REDUCE yield? Most commercial growers mix both spectrums to get the best of both worlds, not because they want to slow plants down.

I'm sorry i'm challenging here, but I ask you to use your brain before posting what someone told you.

I suppose somewhere along the line that if you had way too much of one specific wavelength that it may do something to the plant, but does anyone out here actually have first hand knowledge about this. Not just that someone said it, but someone that has experienced it.

[potofgold]

Did the LED fairy tell you that too? Cmon now, who said that using hps and mh will REDUCE yield? Most commercial growers mix both spectrums to get the best of both worlds, not because they want to slow plants down.

I'm sorry i'm challenging here, but I ask you to use your brain before posting what someone told you.

I suppose somewhere along the line that if you had way too much of one specific wavelength that it may do something to the plant, but does anyone out here actually have first hand knowledge about this. Not just that someone said it, but someone that has experienced it.

as a matter of fact i read it in edd rosenthal's books and in mel franks book and ive tested it for my self! and i trust what edd and mel say because they a cannabis gewrus. when i tested it i got less yeild on the side that hade both mh and hps. then the side that just hade hps. and the same happen to 2 of my friends. so i did use my brain befor i posted and no one told me i read it and did it. and if you realy think aboput it its very posable to have too much on one spec or wave length and shut down a plant.

[irydyum]

I am really thinking about it I promise. Also reading and researching about it. I see plenty of scientific studies showing that there is an apex of light intensity that chlorophyll can process, but nothing quoting that it shuts down or anything.

You really had a poor yield from combining HPS and MH? And your friend? I'm just trying to figure out why. I have done my fair share of reading both Rosenthal and Frank, along with Cervantes and Soma. I have NEVER seen anything that suggests that mixing HID's would give you a diminished yield. I am simply asking you to either explain the variables that led you to your conclusion, or quote something that you have read.

Too many times on here I run into people who think I'm the asshole for challenging facts. If you can show me something that makes sense that says what you do, I'll definitely read and consider it. I'm just trying to make sense of these things, but if you want me to leave your thread here and go start my own on the subject I will. I'm curious to see how others feel about this, and what their experiences may be with it.

[potofgold]

I am really thinking about it I promise. Also reading and researching about it. I see plenty of scientific studies showing that there is an apex of light intensity that chlorophyll can process, but nothing quoting that it shuts down or anything.

You really had a poor yield from combining HPS and MH? And your friend? I'm just trying to figure out why. I have done my fair share of reading both Rosenthal and Frank, along with Cervantes and Soma. I have NEVER seen anything that suggests that mixing HID's would give you a diminished yield. I am simply asking you to either explain the variables that led you to your conclusion, or quote something that you have read.

Too many times on here I run into people who think I'm the asshole for challenging facts. If you can show me something that makes sense that says what you do, I'll definitely read and consider it. I'm just trying to make sense of these things, but if you want me to leave your thread here and go start my own on the subject I will. I'm curious to see how others feel about this, and what their experiences may be with it.

i realy dont fell like typing it all out but since you have edds books it on page 42 of ask edd. ive ran my 400mh next to my 1000hps and the side that hade both light got less yeild the the side with just the hps, and the hps side didnt have as much light. then the same thing happen to my friends that didnt belive me. then i was reading my ask edd book and he was saying i sincetific studys the same thing happen. ill have to look threw mel's book and find its page. ive also read Cervantes bible and he dosnt say anything about this. ask around and let me know? but i know what i seen with my own eyes and it was less yeild. i am not saying it wasnt no yeild but less. the reason when thigs get shut down/ slowed is the red spec in the leds when their too much its shuts down/slowes chalarphill A. i have not tested this and i dont not want to test this on my girls. thats why i am staying with the 180w right now. maybe later on down the road i will test this but not now. you are more then welcom to post on my thread i dont care at all. its all good info that is needed to be knowen. as long as noone is trying to put down or bash my grow i dont mind if you speak ur mind.

[irydyum]

I hope you didn't take anything as bashing your grow, that was the furthest thing from my intentions. All I was trying to get to was some fact to support your claim. You gave, thank you.

I'm not trying to refute what you have seen with your eyes, it's just contrary to most of the accepted data. You have to understand that if you claim something against accepted knowledge, it's going to be talked about. That's all this is, I'm trying to educate myself and others as to something we apparently aren't aware of.

In the future, if you have the time and feel like typing it out, could you put the quote you are speaking of in ur thread here. ALL of my books have been gifted to noobs for the time being so I can't read em.

[potofgold]

shiva & super skunk 5 weeks into flower. 2 days under the new 180w

[demoreal]

I would love to get that info too if you can post it or something. cause i kinda like throwin all sorts of lights in my grow.

what book? tittle and page?

cause i am also a bit relectent to believe that too much LEWD is too much or that the mix of MH and HPS is bad or HPS and LED. or whatever.

can you post sights. info. thanks.

your plants look great. nice. I took some pics of mine and will post them up real soon.
(Set this one all up and will be leavin it for school)
its what i set up for my familly. we all have cards. makes me happy.
started at the beggining of summer and two trainwreck plants are bein chopped tommarow
we started with soil for about a month then were over it. so its changing into an ebb an flow garden. my dad likes it. I want to keep it simple for him.
right now we have two trainwreck, two 91 chemdawg, and two bannana kush in soil. I also started to flower two chemdawg in a bucket wick thing that works great. and i have a tiny sea of green, kind of sea of green. one with real choppy weather like alaska sea. (a bit uneven). i will shut up now.
i will get the shots up tomorrow.
that trainwreck smells like a lemon pie!

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looking good POG! can't wait to see how they finish.

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