New Induction Grow light

[bigsby]

We already have them, I'm actually working on better phosphors to make a nice quad-band induction lamp.

I'm interested too. Keep us up to day Khyber.

[khyberkitsune]

you should look at the work of these hydrogrow LED people, they got the spectrum down on their products

Hydro Grow LED

Only two of their listed wavelengths have the highest efficiency, the other two are off by about 10-20nm and that really affects the performance of the light.

Also, their far-red is useless since they're using 660 and not 680. The Emerson Effect with Far-Red doesn't occur without 670-680nm radiation, 660 just doesn't cut it very well. Also, the overall balance, too much red.

The only thing they have that appears to beat me is 60 degree diodes in the panel construction. Even their price per watt is kinda out there.

[vannewb]

The M-Land Bi-spectrum lamps are targeted wavelenths.
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I am presently gathering data and this thread is of special interest to me. What happen to bubba? Thanks for that latest bud shot Steveat1.

I spoke to bubba a few weeks ago and he said some locals were putting them to the test.

His 400w unit is $400 or $499 (sorry can't recall) compared to yours at $800, a price that makes even me balk.

We already have them, I'm actually working on better phosphors to make a nice quad-band induction lamp.

Ok fine how long do you think your better phospors will take?

Apparently you're still testing how much blue vs. red you want in your lights?

[khyberkitsune]

"Ok fine how long do you think your better phospors will take?

Apparently you're still testing how much blue vs. red you want in your lights? "

Just waiting for them to be able to make the quantum-dot phosphors I need for 420nm, and I'll have my full line-up. Maybe 6 months, it's tough to tell.

As for testing how much red vs. blue I want, I've pretty much settled upon that number.

[Romantik]

Well folks it's moving along good with the induction show down, hps vs induction bloom.
Were at week one and both are already showing mini flowers.
Were using Advanced Nutrients for every step of the way.
I have started out with a 300 vs 300 systems.
I have noticed that since bringing the HPs into my room my temp increase has jumped at least 15 degrees.
The induction runs much cooler and I can leave the light stationary.
With the HPs I have had to move the lamp twice.
I will be posting pictures in the next couple days.
I also use LED for all my clones, I find that the babies love the LED more than your basic CFL's.
I move my clones to my flowering room at 12-14 inches.
I also do hand watering and mix my nutes at 1 gal. At a time.
Were growing good old Northern Lights hybred, to get the best of both worlds.
Happy farming to all and good luck.

[khyberkitsune]

Well folks it's moving along good with the induction show down, hps vs induction bloom.
Were at week one and both are already showing mini flowers.
Were using Advanced Nutrients for every step of the way.
I have started out with a 300 vs 300 systems.
I have noticed that since bringing the HPs into my room my temp increase has jumped at least 15 degrees.
The induction runs much cooler and I can leave the light stationary.
With the HPs I have had to move the lamp twice.
I will be posting pictures in the next couple days.
I also use LED for all my clones, I find that the babies love the LED more than your basic CFL's.
I move my clones to my flowering room at 12-14 inches.
I also do hand watering and mix my nutes at 1 gal. At a time.
Were growing good old Northern Lights hybred, to get the best of both worlds.
Happy farming to all and good luck.

For the best scientific results, don't use Advanced Nutrients. Use something general-purpose that is commonly found and easy for anybody to reproduce at a low cost. Any typical Hoagland's solution should do the trick just fine.

[krazyken]

Hey Jackdewack,
Our 300 watters are available in 2700K, 6400K or the purple full spectrum. All are 120 Volt and are $480
Thanks

$480 is a steep price for a lamp with no fixture. I sell M-Land Bi-spectrum 300W for $532 + shipping/handling. These specific units are IP65 rated, water proof for indoor/outdoor use. As someone mentioned earlier about the shipping cost being high, it is, and they will not budge. Shipping costs are controlled by the shipping companies and not the manufactures. You would have to order a whack of them to save any real amount. They weigh 33 lbs because of the thick aluminum fixture and tempered glass cover. For $52 more you get the fixture and water proof rating. JMO

Yo those 300w M-Lands are some bad-ass units.

Yes they are! :smokin:

[khyberkitsune]

Just wait until M-Land get my specialize dphosphor blend in it (if they go for it, anyways,) then they'l be better than LED, no joke. I love LED, but Induction offers so much more.

[krazyken]

Just wait until M-Land get my specialize dphosphor blend in it (if they go for it, anyways,) then they'l be better than LED, no joke. I love LED, but Induction offers so much more.

Thank you so much khyberkitsune for positive response! The science is there! The Bi-spectrum units are the best so far! I do hope you hit it off with M-Land!

Kenneth Surgent
Advanced Hydroponics
EFDL Lighting
Ontario, Canada

[khyberkitsune]

Thank you so much khyberkitsune for positive response! The science is there! The Bi-spectrum units are the best so far! I do hope you hit it off with M-Land!

Kenneth Surgent
Advanced Hydroponics
EFDL Lighting
Ontario, Canada

Well, while the science is there, there is a limitation to induction, while LED has the potential to surpass HID.
Also, I'm working on quad-band induction.