New Induction Grow light

[khyberkitsune]

great post. Looks like induction is just not quite there yet

It's not going to be there for a LONG time.

I just finished a MUCH improved version of an induction lamp, co-designed with a Siemens engineer.

Higher outputs than T8, less output versus a T5, given equal power consumption.

Just isn't going to happen until the things I specified are possible - waveguides in the glass tube, better diamagnetic materials to keep the EM contained within the area of the bulb.

Have a picture of my new induction lamp - good for veg, garbage for flowering.

[jscruggs420]

I have 4 , 300 watt induction lights, they work great for clones and veggen. I have pics posted and can post more

[khyberkitsune]

I have 4 , 300 watt induction lights, they work great for clones and veggen. I have pics posted and can post more

Yep, they're fine for cloning and vegging. They lack the photon flux density to work out well for fruiting and flowering. I was testing a 200w induction lamp, and the PPFD meter I use never topped out, even right against the glass.

[begunok]

Hello Everyone
I got some nice pictures of pepper growing under bispectrum induction lights. Lamps are great, even 50 Watters. Want to tell -it is wrong that 200W bispectrum can't give 2000 umols-s-m. It gives me 2000 umols-s-m in 10 cm from the bulb.

Compare to CFL
I have picture of plant, one part of it grows under cfl and other part under bi-colour. It is way different. Size, fruits and flowers you will see only under bisectrum light. Even PAR are exactly the same.

About preferences -2700/6500K versus bispectrum.
For me still unclear how come people tell us, that 2700K is better then bispectrum in flouring. If you look at emission specter for 2700K - you will not see anything after 650nm. Bispectrum has peak after 650nm. That is just unclear for me, I'm not telling this is wrong.

[vanduction]

great post. Looks like induction is just not quite there yet

To be fair this lamp did produce better grams per watt! I suspect it could outproduce HPS if the system was better designed!

Bubbas says his shades can make a huge difference in induction lamp performance, unfortunately he didn't give me a unit to test so we didn't get the chance to find out!

[vanduction]

We have been fixing the bugs that clients have been feedbacking over the last 2 years and we have come out with a new version of the mland induction light and we are developing a 500w and 600w. The recent feedbacks have been satisfying and i am really proud of our new light however i need a journal to proove this. I can't test the lights in our factory based in Shanghai as the growth of cannabis is penilized with decapitation...not worth it.

Anyways i am willing to give a discount to any grower that is willing to provide me with a journal comparing the new induction lights! I see a lot of experienced growers with the necessary tools to pull this off

When you have a production-model 150w/200w/250w/300w, let's talk!

[donglai]

I wonder if you guys are using the phosphor blend I sent to you last year? I assume you've been having good results with that if you're coming out with a new model?

Hi there,

Well firstly we have 50w/200w/300w/400w models atm. Secondly the phosphor blend you are talking about was the bug from our first version of our mland induction lamp in 2009, last year was 2010. We are planning to develop a new 500w one due to the good feedbacks we've been having and clients asking for a higher walttage induction grow light.

[khyberkitsune]

Hi there,

Well firstly we have 50w/200w/300w/400w models atm. Secondly the phosphor blend you are talking about was the bug from our first version of our mland induction lamp in 2009, last year was 2010. We are planning to develop a new 500w one due to the good feedbacks we've been having and clients asking for a higher walttage induction grow light.

The phosphor blend I'm talking about wasn't even made in my laboratory until October 2010, so that wouldn't have been my formula in use back in 2009.

[donglai]

The phosphor blend I'm talking about wasn't even made in my laboratory until October 2010, so that wouldn't have been my formula in use back in 2009.

Well are you sure you got it from us directly? If you could send me a PM with ur details i might be able to track your order and even replace your lamp for free. As i recall, by last year October 2010 we already had the new version which didnt have the phospor blend bug that made the light spectrum not reach the advertised spectrum distribution. I am saying this because some lights bought from ebay or our north american distributors are old stock from them that couldnt be sold.
Anyways the point is that the phospor blend bug has been removed and even our waterproof housing fixture is being removed from the 400w series due to the concerns that the Kelving temperature reached after a long period of activity of the lighting system.

[khyberkitsune]

Well are you sure you got it from us directly? If you could send me a PM with ur details i might be able to track your order and even replace your lamp for free. As i recall, by last year October 2010 we already had the new version which didnt have the phospor blend bug that made the light spectrum not reach the advertised spectrum distribution. I am saying this because some lights bought from ebay or our north american distributors are old stock from them that couldnt be sold.
Anyways the point is that the phospor blend bug has been removed and even our waterproof housing fixture is being removed from the 400w series due to the concerns that the Kelving temperature reached after a long period of activity of the lighting system.

You should stick with the IP67 specification. One of the good uses for the induction lamp was for keeping outdoor sports fields green. What I would suggest doing is making a new heat sink on the top of the unit and directly affixing the unit to that.

I never purchased any lamps from your company, I sent off an e-mail to the company with a new phosphor blend that I was giving out for free because I wanted to see induction lighting gain a better edge versus fluorescents.

I have to say, however, that the lights still lack overall in photon flux emissions. If only you could make those tubes of a smaller diameter, and perhaps increase the tube pressure or harvest the mercury emission lines better. Maybe redo the entire tube and use aluminosilicate instead of borosilicate glass?