thanks for the help dackman these pics are no better but the first is the best shot of a preflower I could get on my phone (why is it when the camera clicks its perfect on the viewfinder then comes through blurred after processing) does anyone know what distance you hold the camera on macro setting?.

I'm a bit worried about the lowest fan leaves are yellowing and drooping, is this normal going into flowering?

thanks all.

(Oh this has been growing since March but I only had noticable growth in June/July)