Quote Originally Posted by potofgold
having the light too high?, not have a fan on your plants? cheap led lights with wrong wave lengths? temps are too high? i dont think its the too much red, because i have 90watt ufo tri-ban. 70 red led 10 orange and only 10 blues on my light and i dont have streching. my are sativas they grow tall but my nodes are good compared to my old 400w hid light.
:wtf: IMHO there is too much red in that panel (for clonning or seedlings). If you look at Cpt's pics it is the same as if someone used an HPS for a seedling, they tend to "go to the light". I grant you the effect may have been lessened if the panel was much closer but it is the result of the red. But hell, I've only been experimenting and using LEDs for 2 1/2 years now....what would I know? Oh, and I've only been growing pot for 60+ years now.

BTW, while you have a "90watt ufo tri-band" I have a 740w homemade Hybred that is 240 Red Cree's + 8 40w T5VHOs, had 2- Procyon 100s (used for abt 8 months), and in a partnered grow right now, am using 2 TI Pro-blooms, currently in a frame with 4 4'T5 VHO for a total of 1000w hybred. I've actually tested, side by side 660w of LED against 1000w HPS. Soon I'm about to add 2 more TI pro-blooms to use 4 over a 4'x4' aero/fog tray.

Here's a pic of 2 TI pro-blooms, side by side with HPS. If you look close you'll see "pre-production unit" on them, I've been playing with these over a year now.
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