Quote Originally Posted by oldmac
:wtf: IMHO there is too much red in that panel (for clonning or seedlings). If you look at Cpt's pics it is the same as if someone used an HPS for a seedling, they tend to "go to the light". I grant you the effect may have been lessened if the panel was much closer but it is the result of the red. But hell, I've only been experimenting and using LEDs for 2 1/2 years now....what would I know? Oh, and I've only been growing pot for 60+ years now.

BTW, while you have a "90watt ufo tri-band" I have a 740w homemade Hybred that is 240 Red Cree's + 8 40w T5VHOs, had 2- Procyon 100s (used for abt 8 months), and in a partnered grow right now, am using 2 TI Pro-blooms, currently in a frame with 4 4'T5 VHO for a total of 1000w hybred. I've actually tested, side by side 660w of LED against 1000w HPS. Soon I'm about to add 2 more TI pro-blooms to use 4 over a 4'x4' aero/fog tray.

Here's a pic of 2 TI pro-blooms, side by side with HPS. If you look close you'll see "pre-production unit" on them, I've been playing with these over a year now.
i give it to you u have a nice set up. but u dont have to be a dick and clown on my 90w ufo. all i was saying is i have alot of red in my led and dont have any streching or week stems. i aways have a fan on my plants and my steams are never week and fall over. her is a pic of a indaca i grew with my red led dose it look like their is a week stem or streching? and i only had a few blue leds with a ton of red. so tell me why its not all week stem and streched out? its all about the wavelengts and where each led is placed, u should now this you made one.