From outdoor sun to indoor LED

[hollywood33]

Ok people here is my update. This are pics exactly 10 days from the last pictures I posted, I think i took better pics for you guys this time.

The plants seem to be doing good I found one plant with spider might's but so far I have that situation under control. I have been having problems with the heat though, Its been getting over 100 F everyday and im growing in a shed with a tent inside. All I have in the tent is a fan the plants and a light. I know I could be doing a better more articulate job in growing these plants but hey I just wanted to see what this LED light could do.

Well I hope you guys enjoy the pictures, I took some pics outside in natural light and some inside with different exposures and used my flash in some to. let me know what you think.

Follow this link for more pictures

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...ml#post2007354

[oldmac]

cptcannabis said he used a red and blue light with the seedlings and they just grew long stems and flopped over why do you think that is?

Too much Red. The red/blue ratio has a great effect on plant growth including strectch. More blue for cuttings and seedlings and vegative growth then more red for flowering. Weezard has a set-up with a knob to adjust amount of red to blue ratio....called it "dial-a-stretch" as I recall.

Nice pics, things look to be going well. Did not notice excessive tip burn, but that usaually is first sign of pushing a little too hard with nutes. Keep in mind also your grow medium will not dry out as fast under LED as with other lighting, and getting a dry period between waterings is important for plant health (especially roots).

(Your link for more pics has me going in circles)lol

[potofgold]

cptcannabis said he used a red and blue light with the seedlings and they just grew long stems and flopped over why do you think that is?

having the light too high?, not have a fan on your plants? cheap led lights with wrong wave lengths? temps are too high? i dont think its the too much red, because i have 90watt ufo tri-ban. 70 red led 10 orange and only 10 blues on my light and i dont have streching. my are sativas they grow tall but my nodes are good compared to my old 400w hid light.

[oldmac]

having the light too high?, not have a fan on your plants? cheap led lights with wrong wave lengths? temps are too high? i dont think its the too much red, because i have 90watt ufo tri-ban. 70 red led 10 orange and only 10 blues on my light and i dont have streching. my are sativas they grow tall but my nodes are good compared to my old 400w hid light.

:wtf: IMHO there is too much red in that panel (for clonning or seedlings). If you look at Cpt's pics it is the same as if someone used an HPS for a seedling, they tend to "go to the light". I grant you the effect may have been lessened if the panel was much closer but it is the result of the red. But hell, I've only been experimenting and using LEDs for 2 1/2 years now....what would I know? Oh, and I've only been growing pot for 60+ years now.

BTW, while you have a "90watt ufo tri-band" I have a 740w homemade Hybred that is 240 Red Cree's + 8 40w T5VHOs, had 2- Procyon 100s (used for abt 8 months), and in a partnered grow right now, am using 2 TI Pro-blooms, currently in a frame with 4 4'T5 VHO for a total of 1000w hybred. I've actually tested, side by side 660w of LED against 1000w HPS. Soon I'm about to add 2 more TI pro-blooms to use 4 over a 4'x4' aero/fog tray.

Here's a pic of 2 TI pro-blooms, side by side with HPS. If you look close you'll see "pre-production unit" on them, I've been playing with these over a year now.

[potofgold]

:wtf: IMHO there is too much red in that panel (for clonning or seedlings). If you look at Cpt's pics it is the same as if someone used an HPS for a seedling, they tend to "go to the light". I grant you the effect may have been lessened if the panel was much closer but it is the result of the red. But hell, I've only been experimenting and using LEDs for 2 1/2 years now....what would I know? Oh, and I've only been growing pot for 60+ years now.

BTW, while you have a "90watt ufo tri-band" I have a 740w homemade Hybred that is 240 Red Cree's + 8 40w T5VHOs, had 2- Procyon 100s (used for abt 8 months), and in a partnered grow right now, am using 2 TI Pro-blooms, currently in a frame with 4 4'T5 VHO for a total of 1000w hybred. I've actually tested, side by side 660w of LED against 1000w HPS. Soon I'm about to add 2 more TI pro-blooms to use 4 over a 4'x4' aero/fog tray.

Here's a pic of 2 TI pro-blooms, side by side with HPS. If you look close you'll see "pre-production unit" on them, I've been playing with these over a year now.

i give it to you u have a nice set up. but u dont have to be a dick and clown on my 90w ufo. all i was saying is i have alot of red in my led and dont have any streching or week stems. i aways have a fan on my plants and my steams are never week and fall over. her is a pic of a indaca i grew with my red led dose it look like their is a week stem or streching? and i only had a few blue leds with a ton of red. so tell me why its not all week stem and streched out? its all about the wavelengts and where each led is placed, u should now this you made one.

[oldmac]

I'm glad you think I'm being a dick with you. As far as "clowning" on your UFO what do you expect...with comments like "cheap led lights with wrong wavelenghts?" What the hell do you think you bought for $200.....Luxeon, LedEngin, Cree's?????????

"tri band" bullshit is just that marketing hype from the same assholes who say it will replace a 600w hid. (they actually added orange because they didn't know what to do with all the red LEDs that couldn't reach wavelenght) I'd take a Procyon100 with only 2 colors of diode anytime. And it will outproform the chinese junk not because it's 10 watts stronger, but because the LEDs are what they are suppose to be.

[oldmac]

Like your pics, looks like that 300w panel is working out good for you.:thumbsup:

I was surprised with the temps you have to deal with, 100f is a bitch, but looks like everything continues to grow. With your set up you really don't get to take advantage of the lower heat from your LED light, too bad. At least the light panel is not contributing to your heat problem.

Keep on growing and reporting, maybe provide some more info on your panel.
And sorry for going off on your thread, I get cranky sometimes.:jointsmile:

[potofgold]

I'm glad you think I'm being a dick with you. As far as "clowning" on your UFO what do you expect...with comments like "cheap led lights with wrong wavelenghts?" What the hell do you think you bought for $200.....Luxeon, LedEngin, Cree's?????????

"tri band" bullshit is just that marketing hype from the same assholes who say it will replace a 600w hid. (they actually added orange because they didn't know what to do with all the red LEDs that couldn't reach wavelenght) I'd take a Procyon100 with only 2 colors of diode anytime. And it will outproform the chinese junk not because it's 10 watts stronger, but because the LEDs are what they are suppose to be.

k first i didnt buy a cheap chinese led. its made in america.prosource world wide. second orange has alot to do with plant. By providing the SunBurst Orange light, not only promotes creation of carotenoids, which are required for plant health, but also add to photosynthesis, since the carotenoids pass their absorbed energy to chlorophyll. Carotenoids are required for plant health due to their ability to absorb destructive free radicals, both from solar damage and from chlorophyll production, whose precursors will damage plant tissue in the absence of the carotenoids. research found that test plants turned a deeper green, i.e. produced more chlorophyll, with the addition of our SunBurst Orange light component. This ability to increase a plant's chlorophyll content with this specific light wavelength is an important aspect that will enable the plant to achieve optimal vegetative growth ( your internodes will be much tighter & prevent stretching due to the plants ability to absorb the light it requires and thus doesn't stretch while looking for light that it craves ) this added ability will also increase flowering production.
just like the harvest sun.
and second of all for growing for 60+ years you plants pics on ur profile look like rookie plants. so dont be hating on my tri-ban because u fucked up and spent hella money on ur leds that grow shity bud for as many watts you use. show me some fat colas youve grow with ur leds befor you try to prech about being so bad ass with led and 60+ years or growing, because i am not impressed of what ive seen from ur pics. so next time you try to tak shit about color specturms, know what the ur talking about. i guess Ed rosenthal, jorge cervantes, mel frank dont know what they are talking about to when the say the orange spec is important for cannabis?

[potofgold]

hey David i am sorry for all this bull shit that just happen on ur thread, i just get pissed off when people start talking shit for know reason, i was just giving my opion on why their might be week stems and fall over. i never said anyone was wrong. and to clear up the cheap led comment i made i was saying alot of these leds off of e-bay are cheap and dont work. its not just throwing blue and red leds where ever u want on a panle and it will work. its a true since behind it each one has to be place in sertin areas. ur plants are looking good i wish the best of luck to u:thumbsup:

[hollywood33]

Its cool you guys... it seems like eveywhere i go LED grow lights are sarounded with contraversy.. I read up on the carotenoids and sunburst orange that potofgold had mentioned, theirs one thing I dont understand about what was said, carotenoids peak obsorption is in the blue spectrum so how does adding orange help exactly?